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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 01:53 PM Original message |
Richest Americans See Their Income Share Grow |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. and what else is new. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. Theyah's ah wawah awn! |
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KillCapitalism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. 91% on 400,000? |
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Tunkamerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. well, in truman's day wouldn't $400,000 be closer to $5 million? |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. I agree with you... |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I'm not a doctor but yes the doc's are worth more than the admins |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Why go to school? Um, maybe because you want to be a doctor. |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. We can hope and wish that all doctors will be selfless saints |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. 'Rewarded financially' But just doctors? |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. As someone who was premed and chose not to go that route because of the lifestyle |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Very good post! |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Thanks :D I have docs in the family and the common misperceptions are hard to take |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. Certainly doctors, and nurses, and medical technicians |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Ins companies account for about 33% of health costs.... 33%!!!!!!!!! |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
65. Those residence share in common a lot with floor nurses. |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. I haven't heard that before. I guess it depends on the hospital |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
75. If Sewage Engineers Don't Do Their Jobs Correctly... |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
55. There may be no gray in your world, but there is in mine. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I'd rather have the surgeon operating on me than the hospital admin, |
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ravencalling (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. Dont diss doctors please |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. I think that's income above $400,000. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. No, that's not how it works. |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. Although I agree with you, your numbers are not accurate. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
44. Incentive |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. So a $4 million income isn't incentive enough?? |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
70. It's not if it all goes to the government n/t |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. How would it "all go to the government" if it's below the suggested 90% bracket? |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Do the numbers |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. I did do the numbers -- the ones we were dealing with previously... |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. Take their stuff |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Try not pulling over when a cop flashes his lights at you... |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. The point: all taxes are force |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. So what? By that reasoning, all laws are force. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. I am not against taxes in general |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 06:13 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. So we mostly agree and our dispute is mostly netfog. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. I think we got it, thanks for the discussion n/t |
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Karl_Bonner_1982 (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
48. Ummm...you don't understand the tax structure |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
49. LOL, no, everything that you make ABOVE 400k is taxed higher, you still get the 400k. |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
52. Uh, Helloooo -- do you not understand the concept of MARGINAL tax rates? |
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KillCapitalism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #52 |
69. Then why the fuck do they say 91%. |
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MFK6 (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. Tax Code |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #69 |
96. Marginal tax rates are pretty easy to understand, actually. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
64. Hey how much does a good telemetry nurse make? |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
68. You do not understand |
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The Croquist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 08:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
82. No it wouldn't. |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. And have universal health care like almost all other industrialized nations, but then those who |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
60. I'll see you the 91% marginal rate and raise you.... |
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The Croquist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #60 |
83. Good Idea! |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. That is because the rest of us saw ours decrease |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
4. Wealth redistribution to the top - those who need it most |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
5. There IS no "trickling down". There IS "wicking up". |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. sure there is "trickle down", don't you feel that you have been.. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. "Pissed on..." - I must be psychic. I KNEW you were gonna say that. |
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progdonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
31. "trickle down theory" |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
51. The top is a sponge. |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
6. this completely debunks some tx BS some freeper was trying to sell me |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. This article was PERFECT to counteract another WSJ propaganda piece a freeper put out... |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
46. I see a match |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #46 |
67. ok, but what percentage of GDP do they also earn? |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. I like the progressive system we have now |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
58. This is what I often tell DUers who just dismiss a WSJ story |
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boomerbust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. Time for a tax rate adjustment |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
12. Does anyone else remember the time Bush was asked about raising taxes on |
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ckramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
13. The only way poor people can keep up with this is |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. They can do that? |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
78. Yep. |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
40. Working on it! And I'm on the low edge of "middle class" hahahahahahahahaha n/t |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
14. I wish I could say I'm shocked. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
21. DU the poll link on that page: |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
59. Very few votes, only 1203 total |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
22. Elsewhere on DU someone was whining ... |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
25. Wealth distribution is always anti-gravity. It always trickles up. nt |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 08:23 AM Response to Reply #25 |
80. Taxes don't redistribute wealth!! |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. You are absolutely right. Taxes probably go back to rich people in the form of |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
28. Oh, whew. |
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CANDO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
29. My right wing brother says.... |
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bulloney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I've heard RW talk shows piss and moan about the richest 1% paying "disproportionate" share of taxes |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:20 AM Response to Reply #32 |
79. Resist using their framing (i.e. "redistribution of wealth")... |
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MetaTrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 06:25 AM Response to Reply #32 |
93. Indeed, check out that distribution |
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MikeNearMcChord (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
53. Warren Buffet made this point many of times. |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
30. 22.8% on taxable income |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
54. Egg-zackly!! Ding, ding, ding we have a WINNAH!! |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
33. There are those who say Bush is a failure. Look at this great success of his. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
34. These people are insufficiently taxed. |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
36. The top 1% earns 22% of the income for the whole country. That's what's sick. |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Yeah same here. The Mrs and I find the whole idea of a gated community disgusting n/t |
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nradisic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
37. No Shit! |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
47. This George Carlin quote comes to mind: |
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kevinmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
56. I was getting worried about the rich ...... glad to see they are OK 8-) n/t |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
62. This isn't Latest Breaking News. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 11:44 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Yeah this is some "same old shit." |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Exactly. |
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livingon (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
81. uga!! |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
86. Take THAT all you people who say the Bush economy isn't working! |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
89. Tax them on their profits.. |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
95. So, that's were all the money is going. |
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