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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: If the Democratic Party continues to go [View all]nc4bo
(17,651 posts)123. They did turn out in 2008.
Our Democratic Party needs to ask itself what has changed from 2004, 2008 and beyond?
It may require a whole lot of soul searching.
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/voting/cb09-110.html
Additionally, voters 18 to 24 were the only age group to show a statistically significant increase in turnout, reaching 49 percent in 2008 compared with 47 percent in 2004. Blacks had the highest turnout rate among 18- to 24-year-old voters -- 55 percent, an 8 percent increase from 2004. The increased turnout among certain demographic groups was offset by stagnant or decreased turnout among other groups, causing overall 2008 voter turnout to remain statistically unchanged -- at 64 percent -- from 2004.
"The 2008 presidential election saw a significant increase in voter turnout among young people, blacks and Hispanics," said Thom File, a voting analyst with the Census Bureau's Housing and Household Economic Statistics Division. "But as turnout among some other demographic groups either decreased or remained unchanged, the overall 2008 voter turnout rate was not statistically different from 2004."
"The 2008 presidential election saw a significant increase in voter turnout among young people, blacks and Hispanics," said Thom File, a voting analyst with the Census Bureau's Housing and Household Economic Statistics Division. "But as turnout among some other demographic groups either decreased or remained unchanged, the overall 2008 voter turnout rate was not statistically different from 2004."
Although the youngest voters were the only age group to show a statistically significant increase in turnout, voting did tend to increase with age. In 2008, younger citizens (18-24) had the lowest voting rate (49 percent), while citizens who fell into older age groups (45-64 and 65-plus) had the highest voting rates (69 percent and 70 percent, respectively).
The overall voting age (18 and older) citizen population in the United States in 2008 was 206 million compared with 197 million in 2004. Of that total, 146 million, or 71 percent, reported being registered to vote. That's slightly lower than the 72 percent who reported being registered to vote in the 2004 presidential election, but does represent an increase of approximately 4 million registered voters. The percentage of those registered to vote that actually did so was slightly higher in the 2008 election (90 percent) than in 2004 (89 percent).
No they were not crucial but......
http://www.pewresearch.org/2008/11/13/young-voters-in-the-2008-election/
Young people were not, however, crucial to Barack Obamas victory, according to the exit polls. Obama would have lost Indiana and North Carolina, but carried other key states such as Ohio and Florida, as well as the national vote. But young people provided not only their votes but also many enthusiastic campaign volunteers. Some may have helped persuade parents and older relatives to consider Obamas candidacy. And far more young people than older voters reported attending a campaign event while nearly one-in-ten donated money to a presidential candidate.
There's that crappy word "enthusiastic" showing it's ugly, inconvenient head again.....
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As Soon As You Saw Podesta Pull Up In The Limo In Front Of The WH 1/20/07, You Knew WE Were FUCKED
CorporatistNation
Dec 2015
#129
So, where are the FDR's of today taking on the economic royalists the way he did?
cascadiance
Dec 2015
#28
I study history of spoken word!!! A clown? I think one that's a clown denies SPOKEN WORDS!!!
cascadiance
Dec 2015
#30
You don't like social security, public education or other SOCIALISM in our country?
cascadiance
Dec 2015
#107
Then why do they vote for Koch supported candidates that made their money from COMMUNIST money...
cascadiance
Dec 2015
#117
"no US politician has ever been as far left as Sanders"? What clown taught you history?
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#32
Was Eisenhower too "extremist" for you? He's more "socialist" than just about anyone but Bernie...
cascadiance
Dec 2015
#108
No, as I noted Bernie says Eisenhower was MORE SOCIALIST than Bernie in his tax policies...
cascadiance
Dec 2015
#111
Polls showed Clinton also heavily ahead of Obama too! How'd that turn out?
cascadiance
Dec 2015
#115
Sorry but this article has polls that show Bernie beats Republicans MORE than Clinton does...
cascadiance
Dec 2015
#119
No, you said "No US politician has been as far left as Bernie Sanders"
HoneychildMooseMoss
Dec 2015
#131
What passes for the Democratic Party today is unrecognizable from the Party I joined in the 60s.
bvar22
Dec 2015
#77
I've been saying this for years. We want Democrats, not Republican-Lite
Feeling the Bern
Dec 2015
#31
and yet they claim it is the left of center progressives that hurt the party.
liberal_at_heart
Dec 2015
#35
The base has been left of the party leadership since the Kochs and Bill Clinton founded the DLC.
Scuba
Dec 2015
#44
What does it mean when someone can't tell the difference between a noun and an adjective?
baldguy
Dec 2015
#43
For many of us, it was never about party, it was about polcies and principles. I don't cheer ....
Scuba
Dec 2015
#45
And that's happened because progressives have been led to believe that both parties are the same...
baldguy
Dec 2015
#54
You're trying to make a distinction without a difference, yet allowing the damage to be done.
baldguy
Dec 2015
#66
Which party leadership wants to rein in Wall Street? Neither. Which party leadership ...
Scuba
Dec 2015
#84
If there is a massive turn out that gets Bernie elected. That will be the mandate, and with
Snotcicles
Dec 2015
#74
Bernie is helping MORE Democrats PROPERLY standing against the TPP get elected far more than Obama!
cascadiance
Dec 2015
#109
I heard a remark on some show last night that America is a "center right" country.
Vinca
Dec 2015
#48
Remind me who won in 2012, with the same alleged pro-corpoate policies being implemented
brooklynite
Dec 2015
#58
OR... maybe the more moderates joing the Democrats and shift it's balance
HereSince1628
Dec 2015
#71
Mandatory Voting. People will be required to vote for a candidate from either corporate based party.
raindaddy
Dec 2015
#85
The DNC DWS DLC Third Way Establishment Is Apoplectic About A Bernie Presidency, The Panic Is Theirs
cantbeserious
Dec 2015
#101