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nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
123. They did turn out in 2008.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 09:51 AM
Dec 2015

Our Democratic Party needs to ask itself what has changed from 2004, 2008 and beyond?

It may require a whole lot of soul searching.

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/voting/cb09-110.html

Additionally, voters 18 to 24 were the only age group to show a statistically significant increase in turnout, reaching 49 percent in 2008 compared with 47 percent in 2004. Blacks had the highest turnout rate among 18- to 24-year-old voters -- 55 percent, an 8 percent increase from 2004. The increased turnout among certain demographic groups was offset by stagnant or decreased turnout among other groups, causing overall 2008 voter turnout to remain statistically unchanged -- at 64 percent -- from 2004.

"The 2008 presidential election saw a significant increase in voter turnout among young people, blacks and Hispanics," said Thom File, a voting analyst with the Census Bureau's Housing and Household Economic Statistics Division. "But as turnout among some other demographic groups either decreased or remained unchanged, the overall 2008 voter turnout rate was not statistically different from 2004."


Although the youngest voters were the only age group to show a statistically significant increase in turnout, voting did tend to increase with age. In 2008, younger citizens (18-24) had the lowest voting rate (49 percent), while citizens who fell into older age groups (45-64 and 65-plus) had the highest voting rates (69 percent and 70 percent, respectively).


The overall voting age (18 and older) citizen population in the United States in 2008 was 206 million compared with 197 million in 2004. Of that total, 146 million, or 71 percent, reported being registered to vote. That's slightly lower than the 72 percent who reported being registered to vote in the 2004 presidential election, but does represent an increase of approximately 4 million registered voters. The percentage of those registered to vote that actually did so was slightly higher in the 2008 election (90 percent) than in 2004 (89 percent).


No they were not crucial but......

http://www.pewresearch.org/2008/11/13/young-voters-in-the-2008-election/


Young people were not, however, crucial to Barack Obama’s victory, according to the exit polls. Obama would have lost Indiana and North Carolina, but carried other key states such as Ohio and Florida, as well as the national vote. But young people provided not only their votes but also many enthusiastic campaign volunteers. Some may have helped persuade parents and older relatives to consider Obama’s candidacy. And far more young people than older voters reported attending a campaign event while nearly one-in-ten donated money to a presidential candidate.


There's that crappy word "enthusiastic" showing it's ugly, inconvenient head again.....

Bring that up to DWS and the DNC. Let's see what they think? nc4bo Dec 2015 #1
A Dem campus organizer I met this weekend votesparks Dec 2015 #3
Obama pulled the young ones too. We all had hopes then, older and younger.... nc4bo Dec 2015 #5
Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #7
.. nc4bo Dec 2015 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #13
In fact, that dog just got put to sleep. n/t. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #17
MIRT team does a good job! nt nc4bo Dec 2015 #40
Young people don't vote... Sancho Dec 2015 #75
They made a difference in 2008. nt nc4bo Dec 2015 #80
Not much. Sancho Dec 2015 #81
What made a real difference was... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #99
And you really hope..... daleanime Dec 2015 #86
No Sancho Dec 2015 #89
So you really hope.... daleanime Dec 2015 #90
No..you are making things up Sancho Dec 2015 #91
You say you hope.... daleanime Dec 2015 #94
I've been working with Democrats for decades... Sancho Dec 2015 #96
They did turn out in 2008. nc4bo Dec 2015 #123
My facts are the same as yours... Sancho Dec 2015 #125
But Obama is no Bernie Sanders demwing Dec 2015 #105
As Soon As You Saw Podesta Pull Up In The Limo In Front Of The WH 1/20/07, You Knew WE Were FUCKED CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #129
That's very encouraging news of campus support for Sanders, awesome. appalachiablue Dec 2015 #83
This is America safeinOhio Dec 2015 #2
Exactly Rebkeh Dec 2015 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #6
Btw welcome to DU. nt nc4bo Dec 2015 #10
As you no doubt always did in the past. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #11
Enjoy your stay... CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2015 #12
Annnnnd they are outta here :) Agschmid Dec 2015 #14
Well done, my dear Agschmid! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2015 #15
Not me, but some good reliable MIRT folks! Agschmid Dec 2015 #18
Thank you--all is well with me and my family! Yay for MIRT folks! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2015 #21
Merry Christmas from MIRT! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #20
Thanks, beam me up scottie! Merry Christmas to MIRT! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2015 #22
Just doing our job, mam! Thanks! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #23
Thank you. Agschmid Dec 2015 #24
You're welcome. :) beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #25
Thank you and Merry Christmas. nt nc4bo Dec 2015 #39
Same to you! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #50
think that was an all-time land speed record for 'stoning. n/t. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #16
Well when it's that clear... Agschmid Dec 2015 #19
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2015 #8
What proof do you have of this? Indydem Dec 2015 #26
So, where are the FDR's of today taking on the economic royalists the way he did? cascadiance Dec 2015 #28
Who taught you history? Indydem Dec 2015 #29
I study history of spoken word!!! A clown? I think one that's a clown denies SPOKEN WORDS!!! cascadiance Dec 2015 #30
Propaganda is hardly needed... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #106
You don't like social security, public education or other SOCIALISM in our country? cascadiance Dec 2015 #107
WHAT PEOPLE WANT! is .... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #112
And real studies have been done that show your OPINION to be WRONG!!! cascadiance Dec 2015 #113
This is not MY opinion... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #116
Then why do they vote for Koch supported candidates that made their money from COMMUNIST money... cascadiance Dec 2015 #117
You miss the point ... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #120
Again, here's an ARTICLE not just my opinion... cascadiance Dec 2015 #122
The article you shared is very interesting.... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #124
Blah blah blah. Indydem Dec 2015 #126
Blah, blah, blah too... cascadiance Dec 2015 #128
"no US politician has ever been as far left as Sanders"? What clown taught you history? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #32
LOL HoneychildMooseMoss Dec 2015 #59
LOL, Guss Hall . ... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #102
Was Eisenhower too "extremist" for you? He's more "socialist" than just about anyone but Bernie... cascadiance Dec 2015 #108
I think the question was .... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #110
No, as I noted Bernie says Eisenhower was MORE SOCIALIST than Bernie in his tax policies... cascadiance Dec 2015 #111
Cadence, may I quote you? You said... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #114
Polls showed Clinton also heavily ahead of Obama too! How'd that turn out? cascadiance Dec 2015 #115
As far as OPINIONS go, my ..., reACTIONary Dec 2015 #118
Sorry but this article has polls that show Bernie beats Republicans MORE than Clinton does... cascadiance Dec 2015 #119
Nope, I won't deny... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #121
I meant politicians that mattered. Indydem Dec 2015 #127
Bernie is NOT a "fringe candidate" HoneychildMooseMoss Dec 2015 #130
No, you said "No US politician has been as far left as Bernie Sanders" HoneychildMooseMoss Dec 2015 #131
Who taught you history? Mr. Peabody? HoneychildMooseMoss Dec 2015 #60
Who taught you history? Bill O'Reilly? nt Chef Eric Dec 2015 #98
"You Bernie folks want to compare them to Marx." Scootaloo Dec 2015 #33
That's an incredibly ignorant post. Scuba Dec 2015 #36
+++++++++ newfie11 Dec 2015 #38
What passes for the Democratic Party today is unrecognizable from the Party I joined in the 60s. bvar22 Dec 2015 #77
So, were these young republucans.... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #103
I compare them to LBJ and Carter. tazkcmo Dec 2015 #87
That is assuming that infusing the party with new blood is wanted. zeemike Dec 2015 #27
I've been saying this for years. We want Democrats, not Republican-Lite Feeling the Bern Dec 2015 #31
Yes Flying Squirrel Dec 2015 #34
and yet they claim it is the left of center progressives that hurt the party. liberal_at_heart Dec 2015 #35
The party is moving left firebrand80 Dec 2015 #37
The base has been left of the party leadership since the Kochs and Bill Clinton founded the DLC. Scuba Dec 2015 #44
Just one: how do we dislodge DINO-Debbie? Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #41
your post presumes that they want to win Doctor_J Dec 2015 #42
What does it mean when someone can't tell the difference between a noun and an adjective? baldguy Dec 2015 #43
For many of us, it was never about party, it was about polcies and principles. I don't cheer .... Scuba Dec 2015 #45
And how does Pres Bernie get his policies crafted into legilation & passed baldguy Dec 2015 #46
How does Hillary? when Dems keep losing seats due to DWS policies? bahrbearian Dec 2015 #47
Bernie Sanders: "I will not make that mistake." Scuba Dec 2015 #51
Bernie doesn't have coattails. baldguy Dec 2015 #52
Well, chasing the mythical "moderate Republican" has gotten us ... Scuba Dec 2015 #53
And that's happened because progressives have been led to believe that both parties are the same... baldguy Dec 2015 #54
What do you think makes it a "lie"? Corpo-Dems are indeed just Repuke-lite. Scuba Dec 2015 #56
The belief of which has led to the situation you complain about. baldguy Dec 2015 #61
I have no idea what your post is supposed to mean. Please try to be more clear. Scuba Dec 2015 #62
The "both parties are the same" meme is a RW lie baldguy Dec 2015 #63
They clearly are not the same. Scuba Dec 2015 #64
You're trying to make a distinction without a difference, yet allowing the damage to be done. baldguy Dec 2015 #66
The damage is being done because the two parties are too much alike ... Scuba Dec 2015 #67
Your argument just proves my point. baldguy Dec 2015 #69
Cheeezus H. Kriste, Harry Truman wasn't a a right-winger! Scuba Dec 2015 #70
Harry Truman never heard of Paul Weyrich. baldguy Dec 2015 #72
Hey, have a great and safe holiday. Scuba Dec 2015 #73
And yet by objective measures mythology Dec 2015 #82
Which party leadership wants to rein in Wall Street? Neither. Which party leadership ... Scuba Dec 2015 #84
If there is a massive turn out that gets Bernie elected. That will be the mandate, and with Snotcicles Dec 2015 #74
If you want to look at someone who didn't have any coattails, HoneychildMooseMoss Dec 2015 #95
So yeah ablamj Dec 2015 #97
Bernie is helping MORE Democrats PROPERLY standing against the TPP get elected far more than Obama! cascadiance Dec 2015 #109
The real question is how does SENATOR Bernie . .. reACTIONary Dec 2015 #104
+1000.nt ecstatic Dec 2015 #133
I heard a remark on some show last night that America is a "center right" country. Vinca Dec 2015 #48
I have been a Democrat all of my life, I will remain a Democrat, Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #49
At the local level, the party is withering votesparks Dec 2015 #55
Well said. Simple and accurate. nt Zorra Dec 2015 #57
Remind me who won in 2012, with the same alleged pro-corpoate policies being implemented brooklynite Dec 2015 #58
The DNC is committing political suicide AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #65
Sounds exactly correct to me Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #68
OR... maybe the more moderates joing the Democrats and shift it's balance HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #71
Just one question, "Why do you hate tyranny?" nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #76
Nice succinct summation of the 2015/16 Democratic Primary. Thank you. nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #78
You nailed it, votesparks! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #79
Mandatory Voting. People will be required to vote for a candidate from either corporate based party. raindaddy Dec 2015 #85
To hint at (but not bring up for discussion) the obvious Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #88
they sold their soul during reagan to survive, but reaganism is dying. pansypoo53219 Dec 2015 #92
Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2015 #93
And give up all of that MONEY??? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #100
The DNC DWS DLC Third Way Establishment Is Apoplectic About A Bernie Presidency, The Panic Is Theirs cantbeserious Dec 2015 #101
Is being anti-corporate part of the democratic platform now? ecstatic Dec 2015 #132
No, it's pretty much unchanged over the past 30 years Recursion Dec 2015 #134
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