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BethanyQuartz

(193 posts)
14. Hopeless
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 10:25 AM
Apr 2013

The Democrats as too similar to the Republicans to even bother about for now. Strangely it is the staunchest enemies of social movements that we now need on our side: the FBI and the CIA. Arguably they are two of the most powerful forces in the world, particularly the CIA, which is possibly the most powerful organization in the world. Supposedly both agencies exist to defend America and Americans (including their own families), but they have historically betrayed us to the wealthy and powerful.

If enough agents come to realize that those they have always served are undermining our health, national security, economy, and freedom perhaps they will turn on their corporate masters and destroy the power those masters hold. Once that happens we can remove private money from politics and no longer suffer from lack of choices.

As much as I loathe both of these organizations, particularly the CIA, they are made up of human beings. Those human beings are mostly drawn from the middle and working classes, and their families mostly live in the United States. Doubtless many of these men and women take their oath to defend their country very seriously. They just need to realize they're focusing the wrong targets. By making the world safe for corporate takeover instead of for true democracy, they endanger America rather than defend it. If enough of them ever realize that, it's game over for corporate power. Make no mistake, many agents have already realized this. These organizations prefer to recruit intelligent people who know how to think. Some have quit, some have even turned whistle-blower. Doubtless others remain silent and hope everything will turn out okay if they just concentrate on their assigned areas.

The question is, how to reach enough of them to tip the balance? To convince them that we aren't the ones they should be fighting? I can tell you this: We can't do it by voting. Propaganda certainly won't work. These agencies rely on data. On facts. On threat assessment. Convince them that the biggest threat to America is corporate America and things will change very quickly for the better.

In 2004, I was for Barack Obama. Yes, in 2004. I saw greatness early on. graham4anything Apr 2013 #1
Similar to you. tblue Apr 2013 #2
I m getting more and more disgusted with the demos Vietnameravet Apr 2013 #3
Have you read "Obama On The Couch" by Justin Frank, M.D., professor of psychiatry, Cal33 Apr 2013 #4
I trust that analysis ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #5
Analyzing historical characters based on records of what they had said and Cal33 Apr 2013 #13
I know ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #15
You may have your own opinions, of course. From my point of view, from researching past history one Cal33 Apr 2013 #34
Why? The simple reason is ... studyshare Apr 2013 #10
Bingo. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #28
Some senior democrats... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #27
Simple nineteen50 Apr 2013 #36
Overall, I'm satisfied. Jamaal510 Apr 2013 #6
BE HONEST - UNLESS Money is Removed from Politics Democratic Party is Corrupt studyshare Apr 2013 #7
I will let you know after I see silvershadow Apr 2013 #8
I am happy with ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #9
And both are likely to be Dems., since the Dems. average out to be quite a lot older. Or do you Cal33 Apr 2013 #26
"that is where the people in their districts/states are". Really? YoungDemCA Apr 2013 #41
I will search district by district polling ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #46
This: blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #12
Hopeless BethanyQuartz Apr 2013 #14
If Dems = Repubs now, what is the answer? uppityperson Apr 2013 #17
Turn their own weapons against them BethanyQuartz Apr 2013 #22
What weapons and how. nt uppityperson Apr 2013 #23
The FBI and CIA for a start BethanyQuartz Apr 2013 #24
Welcome to DU BethanyQuartz! hrmjustin Apr 2013 #18
Thanks! BethanyQuartz Apr 2013 #20
Your Welcome! hrmjustin Apr 2013 #21
I feel pretty much the way you do. forestpath Apr 2013 #16
I wrote a blog post about this last week tabbycat31 Apr 2013 #19
I'll take the 5th. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #25
What do you think of the current Republican party? Ask THAT. RBInMaine Apr 2013 #29
A weak and uninspiring shadow of the Democrats of my youth.... Rowdyboy Apr 2013 #30
The two party system is ruining America bigwillq Apr 2013 #31
I have come to feel like an enabler with zeeland Apr 2013 #32
Not much. nt bemildred Apr 2013 #33
Improve Socioeconomic Status Big Tent Apr 2013 #35
I feel generally well-represented on the state level (Oregon) but overall the President has... Poll_Blind Apr 2013 #37
It could have been worse. hay rick Apr 2013 #38
The killer at the heart of the Democratic party today? Shitty endorsements. Poll_Blind Apr 2013 #40
My current fantasy. hay rick Apr 2013 #42
I think the Republican Party going off the deep end has created a crisis.... YoungDemCA Apr 2013 #39
I don't feel represented supernova Apr 2013 #43
Mostly whores for the rich, but the Repubs are COMPLETELY owned by the rich! dmosh42 Apr 2013 #44
Still a Democrat but am not very happy with the party mvd Apr 2013 #45
I think they're the party of Reagan now. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #47
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