Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

African American

Showing Original Post only (View all)

JHan

(10,173 posts)
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:17 AM Jan 2017

Since folks want to throw Cory under the bus... [View all]

Last edited Sun Jan 15, 2017, 11:45 AM - Edit history (3)

This blog goes into detail about the amendment:

https://cenlamar.com/2017/01/14/if-bernie-sanders-cares-about-cheaper-drugs-he-should-stop-smearing-his-colleagues-for-rejecting-his-flawed-amendment/

"The left-wing media reflexively ran with Sanders’s explanation as gospel truth, slamming Sen. Cory Booker, in particular, for his perceived betrayal. “Progressives Outraged Over Booker, Democrats’ Vote On Prescription Drugs From Canada,” Roll Call reported. “Cory Booker’s Bogus Excuse Betrays Progressives,” claimed Michael Sainato of The Observer. Similarly, on social media, Booker was slammed as a “traitor,” a “sell-out,” and “a corporate shill.”"


One day, he is hailed for his tenacity and integrity in opposing a nominee for Attorney General who had already been rejected once for a seat on the federal bench because of his racist statements. The next day, he is blasted as a tool of Big Pharma because he, along with 12 of his other Democratic colleagues, voted against a non-binding budget amendment authored by Bernie Sanders. Before he even had an opportunity to explain his vote, Sanders was on the attack.


And corporate shill?

"It is true that in 2014, when he first ran for Senate, Cory Booker received $329,000 from the pharmaceutical industry. It placed him near the top of the list that year in industry donations. It’s also not too surprising: New Jersey is home to 46 different pharmaceutical companies, including the headquarters of Johnson & Johnson, Merck, and Wyeth. $329,000 is a lot of money, and it’s also the same amount of money the industry has donated to first-term Republican Sen. Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, home to exactly zero pharmaceutical company headquarters. That money goes much further in Louisiana than it does in New Jersey.

It’s also significantly less than the $4.5 million that then-Sen. Barack Obama raised from the pharmaceutical industry when he ran for President in 2008.

Last year, during his campaign for President, Bernie Sanders received $309,575 from the pharmaceutical industry. Of the 100 members of the Senate, he ranked third in donations from the industry.

For what it’s worth, the 30 Democratic members who voted in favor of Sanders’s amendment received a combined total of $1,038,971 from the pharmaceutical industry last year alone; if you include the donations Sanders, an Independent, received, the grand total is $1,348,546. "

On the other hand, the 13 Democratic members who voted against his amendment raised a total of $1,039,339 from the industry.

But these aggregate totals are somewhat deceptive, because they belie the fact that nearly half of the amendment’s Democratic supporters received either no donations or less than $10,000 from the industry, while over a dozen of them received anywhere between $40,000 to $240,000.

In other words, there isn’t a direct correlation between a member’s individual vote and the size of the donations they received from the industry. The largest beneficiary of campaign donations from the industry voted against it, and the second and third largest beneficiaries voted for it.


So, why did it fail?

Well, for starters, Sanders couldn’t figure out if he wanted to create a fund to import drugs from Canada or the entire world. In its initial iteration, his amendment sought to establish a deficit-neutral reserve fund to allow for the importation of drugs from “Canada and other countries.” Amy Klobuchar subsequently cleaned up the language and eliminated “other countries” from its title.

But, aside from the confusion about the scope of this proposed reserve fund, the primary reason it failed is that Sanders misapprehended the mechanisms necessary to establish an importation process that conforms with FDA guidelines. It’s not enough to say “these drugs must be safe;” there needs to be funding for quality control and compliance, which was never addressed.

Sure, this was a non-binding budget amendment, and some will argue that things could have simply been cleaned up later on. But it was ostensibly designed to be a funding mechanism, and instead, it read like a milquetoast resolution. There were a number of other amendments introduced that very day that included provisions for the Food and Drug Administration; Sanders’s didn’t, and it needed to.

In making the case for this legislation, Sanders spoke almost exclusively about the re-importation of patented American pharmaceuticals, and to be fair, that is an enormous part of the equation; it’s also what most American consumers demand. However, it doesn’t capture the entirety of the market. In some cases, American consumers may turn to Canadian compounding pharmacies for cheaper specialized medications; in others, Americans may want to purchase generic medications that are no longer patented and can be manufactured independently at a lower cost. And that’s why we need FDA oversight and compliance.

It’s easy to say, “Well, if Canada already approved these drugs, then why do we need the FDA to get involved?” Simple answer: Because the Canadian regulatory agency is responsible for protecting Canadian citizens, and the FDA is responsible for protecting American citizens.

Right now, we basically take foreign drug importers at their word. We require that they register, that they fill out some paperwork, that they label their products, and that they adhere to international best practice standards in manufacturing. But there’s no way we can really guarantee any of that.

The demand for cheaper drugs from Canada has already created a boutique industry of online pharmacies that market almost exclusively to Americans, and most of these pharmacies are fraudulent. The drugs they sell may be deadly. Recently, a Canadian drug manufacturer was caught selling fake cancer drugs to American doctors.

And that is precisely why it’s so important to get this legislation right, from the beginning.

If Bernie Sanders is serious about reducing drug prices, he should stop smearing his colleagues for rejecting his flawed amendment and instead start listening to them.


And a reserve fund? Reserve Funds would not have made a difference, as Dylan Matthews point out at WaPo in 2013:


Tbh, I never saw the Canada option as viable. Canada's Pharmaceutical Industry is not as robust as ours. They account for only 2 percent of worldwide pharmaceutical sales, and we are their main market for sales: "Cross-border internet pharmacy sales between Canada and the U.S. grew rapidly from 2000 to 2003, but had, until 2014, steadily declined. However, they grew by 7% from 2014 to 2015, reaching $112 million or 1.5% of total pharmaceutical products exports to the United States (IMS Pharmafocus 2020)." https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/lsg-pdsv.nsf/eng/h_hn01703.html

The approval process for drugs in Canada takes longer than our approval process. Heavy price controls have created a demand for cheap generics which in some instances risk lives: Worth the price? Push for cheaper generic drugs has Canadians buying questionable medicines from India

Health Canada needs better oversight of generic drug quality. Not promoting woo wouldn’t hurt either.

Canada has a sluggish approval process, (because of the formulary approval process). Because of price controls, demand for generics are high, meaning quality drugs are rare to come by. The situation is far from perfect. Rather than adopt a tunnel vision about importing drugs from Canada, I'd rather representatives examine the flaws in Canada's set up and what lessons we can learn from them.

Maybe that's what the conversation should be about?

Instead a line has been drawn in the sand , a strong democratic senator and an ally reviled over a symbolic amendment with no teeth.

This thread is also worth following: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028477228
74 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Just say no to big pharma HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #1
no it's not. Senators have to think of their states and jobs and other things for their constituents JI7 Jan 2017 #2
Not necessarily.. ciaobaby Jan 2017 #4
you talk to every single person in nj ? and they elected christie so it's not some huge liberal JI7 Jan 2017 #5
Cory spent 15 years as a Newark politician HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #9
newark is part of nj JI7 Jan 2017 #10
What an odd sense of right and wrong HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #13
my point is they would vote for him if the election was held tomorrow JI7 Jan 2017 #15
And they would still vote for him if he got the amendment vote right HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #17
You can't have read that OP, or you'd understand that the situation pnwmom Jan 2017 #42
Please reread the article. JHan Jan 2017 #48
What an odd sense of unsupported and righteous absolutism you posses... LanternWaste Jan 2017 #73
another viewpoint ciaobaby Jan 2017 #3
that will never happen because senators are elected by their states and all states are not the same JI7 Jan 2017 #6
Well, thats the problem with Democrats ! ciaobaby Jan 2017 #7
that's true of all senators . it's not a party thing . JI7 Jan 2017 #8
you are right. ciaobaby Jan 2017 #11
no, democrats lose because of the way the system is set up. not because they don't all vote together JI7 Jan 2017 #12
I am sure it is a bit of both. ciaobaby Jan 2017 #14
there is never 100 percent united front. not even with republicans JI7 Jan 2017 #16
Agreed - but the closer you get the better ciaobaby Jan 2017 #18
because it's a bunch of bs just to attack Booker JI7 Jan 2017 #19
Honestly don't think thats the case ciaobaby Jan 2017 #20
the focus has been on booker only JI7 Jan 2017 #21
I would strongly suggest you take a look at fb if you truly believe that. Bohunk68 Jan 2017 #46
But why do we all have to unite behind Bernie? bravenak Jan 2017 #22
Now I am so confused ciaobaby Jan 2017 #24
But you are only noticing it because of Bernie bravenak Jan 2017 #26
I wish you would not direct your anger at me. ciaobaby Jan 2017 #27
You are the one who seems 'angry' at Booker who just demolished Trump bravenak Jan 2017 #28
not trashing anybody ciaobaby Jan 2017 #29
You have said that a bajillion times bravenak Jan 2017 #30
until you hear it. ciaobaby Jan 2017 #31
I heard it bravenak Jan 2017 #33
I agree with most. ciaobaby Jan 2017 #34
he has been in the news for trying to stop a right wing anti gay, racist senator from becoming AG JI7 Jan 2017 #35
Yep. He gets no credit bravenak Jan 2017 #39
Right? mcar Jan 2017 #72
Just realize that we might be a bit more aware in the aa group of how much bravenak Jan 2017 #41
+1 betsuni Jan 2017 #45
And of course Obama, he got the treatment too. JHan Jan 2017 #50
Everything was Obama's fault here for eight years bravenak Jan 2017 #57
Yes he got more high profile about it. LiberalFighter Jan 2017 #55
Well said, brave! brer cat Jan 2017 #62
exactly, especially with Trump about to be President and the same crowd going after Dems for the JI7 Jan 2017 #37
example please of how I trashed Booker ciaobaby Jan 2017 #32
You came into a thread that followed an OP specifically about Booker. pnwmom Jan 2017 #44
Why vote for a bill that is flawed? LiberalFighter Jan 2017 #54
Thank you for this post. rogue emissary Jan 2017 #66
Exactly! LiberalFighter Jan 2017 #53
They're my senators, too HassleCat Jan 2017 #23
I'm not angry with them. Are you aware that they've already discovered pnwmom Jan 2017 #43
Great points +++++++++++ JHan Jan 2017 #51
Why are you angry over them because of an amendment that is only symbolic .. JHan Jan 2017 #49
I remember Booker from Newark days, and he's one sharp politician who knows... TreasonousBastard Jan 2017 #25
it was the same with Joe Biden and the Credit Industry in his state JI7 Jan 2017 #36
your article showed some good points DonCoquixote Jan 2017 #38
i agree that the issue of pricing is critical.. JHan Jan 2017 #47
Thank you! (nt) betsuni Jan 2017 #40
Thank you for the post. LiberalFighter Jan 2017 #52
Some errors... OneBlueDotBama Jan 2017 #56
How drugs are approved in Canada: JHan Jan 2017 #58
Being listed on a provincial formulary has nothing to with safety. OneBlueDotBama Jan 2017 #59
Yes and the wait is a flaw in the system which is why I mentioned it: JHan Jan 2017 #60
Again.... OneBlueDotBama Jan 2017 #61
And again......."the provincial review has to do with efficiency and pricing" JHan Jan 2017 #64
It's complicated... OneBlueDotBama Jan 2017 #68
That Roody anecdote shouldn't floor me but it did.. JHan Jan 2017 #69
Trying to keep track of.... OneBlueDotBama Jan 2017 #70
Thank you, JHan. brer cat Jan 2017 #63
Agreed. ++++.... JHan Jan 2017 #65
This ... BlueMTexpat Jan 2017 #67
K&R mcar Jan 2017 #71
I don't like him .. coco22 Jan 2017 #74
Latest Discussions»Alliance Forums»African American»Since folks want to throw...»Reply #0