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YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
Wed May 25, 2016, 03:49 PM May 2016

Why Black Voters Are the Most Rational Voters of 2016 [View all]

Contrary to some nimble-minded pop-culture notions that either we’re not politically sharp or we don’t care about elections or we just vote for people who look like us, black voters (for the most part) are a rather strategically sound bunch. But that’s because the stakes are always ever so high for us. There’s little margin for error, little wiggle room when the wrong people are put in power. When election outcomes go south—or, in our case, symbolically Deep South—we can’t accept it because we’re so busy mentally preparing to pull our political rip cords on a proverbial parachute.

We’re not simply jumping out of a crashing national plane, so to speak (because where else can we go, considering our statistical lack of social mobility, anyway?). Yet we do suddenly find ourselves escalating communitywide survival mode.


White commentators, prognosticators and comedians may yuk it up daily and hurl jokes at orange-faced billionaire Trump, but none of that is changing the 52 percent of white voters supporting him in this Public Policy Poll (pdf)—or how Forbes’ Jeffrey Pfeffer pegged it way back last summer: “Narcissism, not modesty, and self-confident, even overconfident, self-presentation lead to leadership roles.”

All because most white Americans—through dominant social, political and economic norms—still maintain the privilege of shredding up institutions and starting from scratch when the mood strikes. Sure, many may get nervous when visualizing “President Trump.” But that doesn’t stop 30 percent of white Democratic Sanders supporters in this McClatchy-Marist poll from saying that they won’t support Hillary Clinton in the general election. For them, there’s always a light at the end of the tunnel. You shouldn’t be surprised, then, when Megyn Kelly softball-interviews Trump or when Operation Humanize Trump proceeds at full media speed.

Nonwhite voters, on the other hand—particularly black voters—have a better, more practical sense than that ... given expertise with dark tunnels, broken promises and lots of busted streetlights. We’ve actually been in this episode before. There’s nothing really funny about Trump’s political rise, nothing really reassuring about it. And so, even when 35 percent of African-American voters (in that same McClatchy survey) might say they’d like to see a Sanders nomination, only 18 percent of “nonwhite” voters opt out of voting for Clinton. In the latest YouGov poll (pdf), you also catch that disparity in common sense between insane white voters and largely rational black voters: A near 40 percent of whites believe that Sanders shouldn’t help Clinton win the general at all, compared with a combined 63 percent of African Americans who are like, “Really, son?”


http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2016/05/why_black_voters_are_the_most_rational_voters_of_2016.html
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A hearty and enthusiastic BlueMTexpat May 2016 #1
I think Black Americans have a far better bullshit detector Bad Dog May 2016 #2
Yeah. It's the same way I thought in 2012. rusty quoin May 2016 #65
I'm not American, I'm English. Bad Dog May 2016 #70
This is why so many of us Coolest Ranger May 2016 #3
Tell them, Coolest Ranger. TELL THEM Number23 May 2016 #6
Enormous K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #4
Most black folks don't even HAVE a damn parachute to save our asses if things go too badly Number23 May 2016 #5
White people openly supporting Drumpf and other white folks supporting him in a backdoor Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #7
You absolutely nailed it. Number23 May 2016 #26
Thanks Obama! Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #29
So much of the anger from the white left and right I think is largely because of Obama. Number23 May 2016 #32
lol! zappaman May 2016 #117
Note to zappaman: NEVER bake cookies that are too big to dunk Number23 May 2016 #118
+1 OK, I'm stealing that too. n/t fleabiscuit May 2016 #97
White people don't consciously think of themselves as a community - especially white liberals YoungDemCA May 2016 #9
I was already a massive fan of yours Number23 May 2016 #30
PREACH! It is the very height of white privilege to be able to assert that we'll all let the house Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2016 #83
+1 fleabiscuit May 2016 #98
Yep! We don't fall for the hype, as we've seen it all before. brush May 2016 #56
I think I saw the dude you had that chat with. 15 hides and talks about being a "psychologist" Number23 May 2016 #57
that's the same reasoning deployed in Chicago: didn't work out too well MisterP May 2016 #8
Oh FFS YoungDemCA May 2016 #10
I don't have a label for it. ananda May 2016 #18
So what does it tell you that black people have overwhelmingly REJECTED Bernie Sanders? Number23 May 2016 #28
I have repeatedly said, as some of you know, that I fully believe Bernie Sanders Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #33
We have alot of Sanders supporters in this forum, including black and other minority ones Number23 May 2016 #35
Or... or Sanders was way to dismissive of PoC votes? His team claimed overtly that he didn't compete uponit7771 May 2016 #123
All that too Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #134
In YOUR opinion. Black people will decide for themselves who's best for them. Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2016 #84
Because he says so? Not because of his record no doubt uponit7771 May 2016 #122
Restoring what ... The primacy of importance of the white male? 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #16
Heehee! brush May 2016 #59
k & r lovemydog May 2016 #11
I could not have written this more beautifully. Sanders' candidacy is over. However... Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2016 #86
If they were really that pragmatic they would be supporting Sanders. LS_Editor May 2016 #12
Sanders is the antithesis of pragmatism YoungDemCA May 2016 #13
Haha. And that's that, huh? LS_Editor May 2016 #89
That's a fact that he doesn't dispute, Why is this called into question? tia uponit7771 May 2016 #125
Bernie Sanders hasn't fought against racism in 40 years. forjusticethunders May 2016 #15
+1 ... AND, much more politely state than my... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #23
I was open to considering your points until you created my own reply and responded to it yourself. LS_Editor May 2016 #88
Try holding yourself to the same high standards you hold others to before you indict them for it. LanternWaste May 2016 #93
Where's the rest of my quote? LS_Editor May 2016 #94
+1, while BLM was staging sit ins on bridges he was still thinking white votes mattered more uponit7771 May 2016 #126
LBJ was a racist but he passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act underthematrix May 2016 #34
So you don't know anything about Bernie Sanders. Clearly. LS_Editor May 2016 #87
I'm 65. Bernie is 75. Back in the day white folks didn't have to be wealthy to hire help. underthematrix May 2016 #91
There's that truthiness again. LS_Editor May 2016 #92
Let's ask him. I'll tweet Bernie underthematrix May 2016 #95
That's right. How dare I ask you to prove your assertions. LS_Editor May 2016 #96
Oh you definitely know where you are and you fit right in. underthematrix May 2016 #99
Projection much? LS_Editor May 2016 #101
LOL! nope can't be projection underthematrix May 2016 #116
Did Bernie reply to the fictional account of his life in your head? LS_Editor May 2016 #120
LOL! underthematrix May 2016 #121
Fighting racism in Vermont? How? Are there even any black people there? brush May 2016 #60
You make a generalization of Vermont then you erroneously focus your attention there - exclusively. LS_Editor May 2016 #85
Ok, pls explain then what Sanders has done in Vermont for the AA community. brush May 2016 #90
Don't know about you, but I'm hearing crickets. nt fleabiscuit May 2016 #100
Yep! Nothing but crickets. brush May 2016 #103
Loud crickets too uponit7771 May 2016 #127
Sanders camp OPENLY admitted to NOT compete in the "southern states" and the dollar amounts spent uponit7771 May 2016 #124
Hmm davidthegnome May 2016 #14
You seem sincere in your query, so I will provide an ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #45
I never thought of it that way. davidthegnome May 2016 #66
+1, Weaver and Divine OPENLY admitted on 2 different calls that they didn't compete in the "Southern uponit7771 May 2016 #128
This message was self-deleted by its author Hoppy May 2016 #17
This is the African American group and this post is not appropriate here. gollygee May 2016 #21
Translation, black people who voted for Hillary, i.e. most, are stupid. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #24
Do you think that you could slither back from whence you came? TIA! Number23 May 2016 #37
So since Black voters went for Hillary about 70-30, 75-25 you saying most of us are what??? UMTerp01 May 2016 #38
Wrong spot, buddy. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #47
I am really offended by this Coolest Ranger May 2016 #72
I suggest you delete the post as the edit is easy to see. ismnotwasm May 2016 #81
I don't think voting for someone with 37% favorabl rating and who is under investigation is rational ram2008 May 2016 #19
I haven't voted yet JustAnotherGen May 2016 #44
Anyone who doesn't realize that Bernie's favorability has never been tested pnwmom May 2016 #48
Hillary has failed the test ram2008 May 2016 #68
His primary is over. Hillary's is still ongoing. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #69
Well, I don't find ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #55
Winning is winning ram2008 May 2016 #67
That's interesting JustAnotherGen May 2016 #71
Interesting; but, consistent in it's inconsistency ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #78
Thinking someone who has a 10% approval rating in Florida among Latinos can win a national GE uponit7771 May 2016 #129
If the GOP acquiescence to Trump is any indication... Rafale May 2016 #20
The rationale alleged Bernie supporters are coming up with to ABANDON Bernie Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #25
So then.... Rafale May 2016 #39
That is who some here will blame, yes, just black people, or mostly black people. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #40
The GOP Party is also finished Rafale May 2016 #41
Oh I know liberals are being challenged, trust me. As an old warrior who Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #42
the thing of it is, friend Rafale May 2016 #43
That is the thought process of someone who has no racial issues or gay/str8t issues Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #46
Not a compelling argument Rafale May 2016 #49
You didnt get up early enough to deal with me. LIke i said, as a liberal who has Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #50
That's quite an accomplishment in life Rafale May 2016 #52
Nobody who posts regularly in THIS group is "Trump-like" ismnotwasm May 2016 #80
Thanks, I didn't even address the insult because I know who I am and I can tell who that is. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #107
You don't understand the group JustAnotherGen May 2016 #61
That will be moot ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #62
I think you hurt his feelings :-( JustAnotherGen May 2016 #75
Open civil, discussion is good but Rafale May 2016 #73
I didn't call you a name :-) JustAnotherGen May 2016 #74
Oh no Rafale May 2016 #76
Do you live in Southern Ohio or Northern Kentucky? JustAnotherGen May 2016 #79
Lots of threats Rafale May 2016 #105
Nope - I'm a Group Host JustAnotherGen May 2016 #108
You come in here all puffed up and raring for a fight with the few minority members of this board Number23 May 2016 #102
Gee, why would I come here Rafale May 2016 #104
To ask us to put you on ignore? JustAnotherGen May 2016 #110
Why indeed? Wait...are you suddenly black or something? Number23 May 2016 #111
How old are you? Rafale May 2016 #112
So I'm guessing the answer to that question is...no?? Number23 May 2016 #113
She thinks we are angry JustAnotherGen May 2016 #114
I know. Why is it clueless, rage-filled people always think everybody else is as angry as they are? Number23 May 2016 #115
LOL. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #119
He's asking group hosts to put him on ignore JustAnotherGen May 2016 #109
The FBI won't result in criminal charges and her transcripts will look like nothing pnwmom May 2016 #51
Well yes, yes of course Rafale May 2016 #54
No, not at all... FBI fairy isn't coming; no one cares about the TPS report cover page missing and uponit7771 May 2016 #131
The fact they're "feeling" betrayed is from the voices of the whiny racial establishment telling the uponit7771 May 2016 #130
I must have been born the wrong color. lark May 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Rafale May 2016 #106
I expect voters of color MFM008 May 2016 #27
Sounds about right to me UMTerp01 May 2016 #31
I strongly support your referenced article rock May 2016 #36
Educational and informative. thanks. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #53
Good analysis gwheezie May 2016 #58
Wow.. SaschaHM May 2016 #63
Artianal white supremecy. The Polack MSgt May 2016 #77
I wish my white-voting brethren would come to their senses, but it is what it is. Starry Messenger May 2016 #64
I will jump in and say I have come to my senses, I also wish more white voters would also Thinkingabout May 2016 #132
We've always been the most rationale voters, as many of us have demonstrated over and over again. Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2016 #82
the mass swiftboating of Bernie Sanders by especially the AA community highprincipleswork May 2016 #133
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