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Cha

(296,848 posts)
9. The damn prosecutor advocated for NOT prosecuting.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 03:19 AM
Dec 2015

And, there isn't silence at all.

Ari Melber
✔ ?@AriMelber
As I was explaining on air:
Typically prosecutor argues to G. Jury for why to charge

This prosecutor says he argued for why not to charge.

9:38 AM - 28 Dec 2015 1,288 1,288 Retweets
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http://theobamadiary.com/2015/12/28/even-when-we-expected-it-it-still-burns-so-deep/

This from 2014 in the aftermath of the tragedy of Michael Brown being gunned down in the street.

Why the Feds Can’t Charge Darren Wilson

They should, but the Supreme Court gutted the civil rights law he violated when he killed Michael Brown.

end snip//

Brown had the right to “life itself,” too. Wilson took it away—and there’s almost nothing the federal government can do about it. The KKK began its reign of terror in 1865. The brutal Selma assault on civil rights protesters occurred in 1965. And in 2014, we still don’t have a federal law to protect unarmed black boys from getting gunned down by cops in the street.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/11/will_justice_department_charge_darren_wilson_supreme_court_gutted_civil.html

The Supreme Court and Congress are the enemies of "the right to life" for Black Americans gunned down by cops in the street and elsewhere.


Steve Marmel ?@Marmel
This is exactly what was expected, re; #TamirRice
And that is SOUL-CRUSHINGLY terrible.

9:21 AM - 28 Dec 2015 58 58 Retweets
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RIP Tamir Rice

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/12/28/even-when-we-expected-it-it-still-burns-so-deep/

Why It’s Impossible to Indict a Cop

It’s not just Ferguson—here’s how the system protects police.

snip//


SCOTUS and the license to kill

Chapter 563 of the Missouri Revised Statutes grants a lot of discretion to officers of the law to wield deadly force, to the horror of many observers swooping in to the Ferguson story. The statute authorizes deadly force “in effecting an arrest or in preventing an escape from custody” if the officer “reasonably believes” it is necessary in order to “to effect the arrest and also reasonably believes that the person to be arrested has committed or attempted to commit a felony…or may otherwise endanger life or inflict serious physical injury unless arrested without delay.”

But this law is not an outlier, and is fully in sync with Supreme Court jurisprudence. The legal standard authorizing deadly force is something called “objective reasonableness.”

More..
http://www.thenation.com/article/why-its-impossible-indict-cop/

I think we should go to the source of the problem.. just because we have a Black Democratic President doesn't mean laws will automatically be changed.


I'd love nothing more that for the DOJ to get involved. Number23 Dec 2015 #1
It's not, IMO, naive to expect the president to use his bully pulpit, and his DOJ . . . brush Dec 2015 #5
Congress ? why would the republicans who hate Obama do anything asks for ? JI7 Dec 2015 #8
Okay, the repugs will do what they do — obstruct — therefore nothing can or should be done? brush Dec 2015 #20
except obama isn't doing nothing JI7 Dec 2015 #21
I certainly didn't say, nor expect the president alone to fix the impunity problem of killer cops brush Dec 2015 #26
he has done that JI7 Dec 2015 #28
I don't get the resistance against the president helping to rally people . . . brush Dec 2015 #29
i don't get the resistance to actually deal with where the problems come from JI7 Dec 2015 #30
The problems come from many places and can be fought from many places brush Dec 2015 #34
He has done the rallying. And the 50+% of Americans that think that he's a Kenyan born socialist Number23 Dec 2015 #37
It is naive and ignorant of the law.. "SCOTUS and the license to kill" " Cha Dec 2015 #13
We'll just have to agree to disagree. brush Dec 2015 #32
Well congratulations you've succeeded in getting anti-Obama people in the AA Group.. Cha Dec 2015 #40
Perhaps you don't get it. I'm a big Ohama fan who worked hard on both of his campaigns brush Dec 2015 #47
I know you're a President Obama supporter. Cha Dec 2015 #50
How could the president "lobby" Congress on this? And especially THIS Congress?? Number23 Dec 2015 #14
The bully pulpit is a tool the president can use to build awareness and consensus . . . brush Dec 2015 #17
The "bully pulpit" can only do so much. The president has gone on television after every single Number23 Dec 2015 #36
President Obama has used his Bully Pulpit.. I don't think you're listening .. you and the others Cha Dec 2015 #41
I'm a big Obama fan brush Dec 2015 #46
Sorry, I trust President Obama has the heart and the intelligence to be doing all that is humanly Cha Dec 2015 #49
don't you know, these congress members who can't even agree to say Obama JI7 Dec 2015 #23
Yeah but, it's all Obama Fault.. Surprise Surprise! Cha Dec 2015 #42
+1000000000000000 nt steve2470 Dec 2015 #35
Agree 100%. But Eric Holder Gman Dec 2015 #2
I signed a Move- On Petition....and Democracy for American.... FarPoint Dec 2015 #3
Here's at least one article on why "Why the Feds Can’t Charge Darren Wilson" .. it just wasn't Cha Dec 2015 #12
To me, the issue is the corruption of the grand jury system. kwassa Dec 2015 #4
Exactly, kwassa.. and there's this.. "Why It’s Impossible to Indict a Cop" "Why the Feds Can’t Cha Dec 2015 #11
You can break a guys neck in Baltimore and shoot a 12 y/o as the cruiser stops. rusty quoin Dec 2015 #6
this is a problem with the culture, not just technical matters JI7 Dec 2015 #7
There's also "Why the Feds Can’t Charge Darren Wilson" and "Why It’s Impossible to Indict a Cop" Cha Dec 2015 #10
The bully pulpit is to rally others daybranch Dec 2015 #15
Exactly! This is my point. Make some noise about this to rally the public and influence Congress brush Dec 2015 #18
noise is already being made by blm who were attacked by "liberals" JI7 Dec 2015 #22
No one expects the president alone to fix it. brush Dec 2015 #27
The damn prosecutor advocated for NOT prosecuting. Cha Dec 2015 #9
And all of this you posted is why the president should use his bully pulpit to rally the public . . brush Dec 2015 #19
The do nothing is your rallying cry. this is much more about problems JI7 Dec 2015 #25
Did you misunderstand my last sentence? Perhaps I needed to use the sarcasm gif . . . brush Dec 2015 #31
police unions are a problem JI7 Dec 2015 #33
No, what I posted are the facts of why the law is the way it is.. President Obama has used his Cha Dec 2015 #38
Yeah, like that'll happen. Scuba Dec 2015 #16
Big surprise you're in here snarking on the President Cha Dec 2015 #39
Get back to me when the DOJ opens an investigation on Tamir Rice's death. Scuba Dec 2015 #43
Get back to me when you learn the law that prevents them from doing a damn thing about it. Cha Dec 2015 #44
Source please. Scuba Dec 2015 #45
Figures.. you don't miss an opportunity to diss President Obama in the AA Group and you can't Cha Dec 2015 #48
Please backup your claim that DOJ has no legal authority to investigate. Dissing me is not ... Scuba Dec 2015 #51
You came into the AA Group and Dissed the President without even knowing the laws.. Shocking. Cha Dec 2015 #52
So you can't back up your claim. That's a fail on your part. Scuba Dec 2015 #53
Don't be lazy.. no one is going to do your work for you. Quit insisting I do it. I'm not taking Cha Dec 2015 #54
It's not MY work to back up YOUR claim. C'mon, either back it up or admit you were just ... Scuba Dec 2015 #55
So don't do your own research. you obviously don't care enough about it. If I didn't know something Cha Dec 2015 #57
Admitting you were wrong would show a strength of character that you must not have. Scuba Dec 2015 #58
Much as an irrelevant post often happens, adding nothing of substanc LanternWaste Dec 2015 #56
so no criticism of local and state govts ? JI7 Dec 2015 #24
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