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In reply to the discussion: WATCH: IDF Soldier Screams At Israeli Activists: 'You Are Worse Than The Arabs' [View all]pelsar
(12,283 posts)136. wow....finally were getting somewhere..
Last edited Sat May 18, 2013, 04:24 AM - Edit history (2)
It's truly baffling why you are so fixated with painting me as a moral snob. I'm not trying to paint you as a monster.its simple, once we understand, what your values are and how they relate to the environment, we then have a better understanding of them. You are a moral snob/elitist.....nothing special about it, we all are, but once one admits it, it put things into a more realistic perspective and explains things better, for instance, why you had no idea what was happening with the arab spring, why you were wrong about it making "democracy" and why you still believe your not wrong...that ultimately it will produce a progressive society....
your beliefs are classic and contain the foundation of all religions:
I believe that those ideas are ultimately universal, but not that I as a person have anything to do with creating them
I hope you realize how that line/belief mimics just about every religion on this entire earth? and that your belief is in competition with just about every religion to "take over the earth"....
at least we got that settled..which brings us to its "twin belief" that every step taken by anybody, brings us that closer to fulfillment of ones belief: (be it the holocaust, the nakba or the arab spring)- the core of any religion: every action/event is simple one step closer to their own "nirvana". Which is why you and the MB and Hamas are in 100% sync: you all believe that the "arab spring' is just one step closer to those universal values (i personally thing that the MB has got you beat, but thats just my opinion)
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from my point of view, that puts your beliefs right next to hamas, the settlers, the taliban, religious christians, etc. You guys should all stay far far away from international politics......when you guys have influence you just mess things up, get people killed since your belief simply negates what others believe and habitually makes things black and white, which does not work in intl politics very well if ones goal is peace on earth, or at least having different societies with different values living side by side (you'll note i wrote different values, i.e. non progressive).
for instance, to "prove" i'm wrong, you constantly make things up about me,
if I read you right, really important to you to be able to argue that those people are utterly incapable or utterly unwilling to create a non-repressive life for themselves
if you actually read other posts that i've written, you would know that this is utter crap, but clearly you need to believe it, since i have a different view of the environment that contrasts your, and furthermore i have actual history on my side that does not negate my views...but that is your religion/belief talking, it has to negate any opposing viewpoint and cannot accept anything less than full capitulation....otherwise your belief is weakened, hence the need to make things up.
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I'm willing to admit it when I'm wrong
really?
And an idea imposed from without, on the terms of a conqueror, won't ever really take hold in the minds of the conquered
i realize this is your beliefs foundation, thats why you should be challenged on it.
do you want to be proved wrong? and you wont be able to prove otherwise? of course the requirement is,when you try to show i'm wrong, you'll have to actually show links, information that backs you up from real new sources and when you can't...i'll accept your apology.
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WATCH: IDF Soldier Screams At Israeli Activists: 'You Are Worse Than The Arabs' [View all]
Purveyor
Apr 2013
OP
Don't change the subject. You cheer on palestinian rock-throwing child militants.....
shira
Apr 2013
#6
Quite a bit takes place outside the territories, in Jerusalem, around the holy places....
shira
Apr 2013
#27
Throwing rocks at soldiers is fine, throwing rocks at civilians is unacceptable.
Donald Ian Rankin
Apr 2013
#10
Does the rock-throwing justify keeping Palestinians away from Palestinian-OWNED land?
Ken Burch
May 2013
#101
Perhaps some rock throwing, at some time, justifies any IDF action against Palestinians anytime?
delrem
May 2013
#102
You know perfectly well that I don't approve of any of the things you listed there.
Ken Burch
May 2013
#122
The problem is, you see YOUR belief(that is, defense of the "lesser evil" by any means necessary)
Ken Burch
May 2013
#135
The statement is double talk as the British Palestine mandate included all of the West Bank
azurnoir
Apr 2013
#76
i don't have the money to buy a book to get basic information about everything i'm interested
HiPointDem
Apr 2013
#67
Aww, what's the matter? Are you sad no one here wants to play your bullcrap game?
shira
Apr 2013
#25
I think you're a provocateur, and that you are everything the IDF soldier represents in this video.
delrem
May 2013
#103
It's your nature to be an internet coward, always deflecting. So I don't blame you. n/t
delrem
Apr 2013
#14
play? what kind of a retrograde are you? The OP has nothing to do with rock throwing. nt
delrem
Apr 2013
#45
If there is a war going on, and enemy soldiers arrived near my house, armed up.
bravenak
Apr 2013
#32