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Pelican

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34. Down the list...
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:14 AM
Apr 2013

Oath Breaking... Yes to the military and the government and the CinC. You know.. the Commander in Chief who is the head of the party that this site is named after?

"I, Dipshit Bradley Manning, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Delusional if he felt like this was a moral stand in any sense of the word. The release of information that he hadn't even read was grossly irresponsible and the hope that something was in there that would validate his pathetic need to strike back at the Army was the definition of delusional. He made the process of diplomacy that much harder and thus the chance of violent conflict that much higher all around the world.

Lying... Aside from the oath breaking covered above he lied to his direct superiors about what he was doing.

As for stood by and doing nothing... What exactly are you referring to? The "Collateral Murder" video? Please be specific...

Lastly... 10%er.. I shouldn't throw military terms your way without context I suppose. A 10%er is one of that small group out of any unit who will take up 90% of your time with their shitty work, shitty attitudes and total inability to function as a Soldier.

IOW "10% of your Soldiers will take up 90% of your time"

Edit: Here is your boy crying his eyes out at Basic Training. A fine indicator of his career to come...

San Francisco Pride committee backtracks on WikiLeaks suspect Manning as Grand Marshal struggle4progress Apr 2013 #1
WikiLeaks suspect won't be SF Pride parade marshal struggle4progress Apr 2013 #2
Discord at SF Pride over parade marshal struggle4progress Apr 2013 #3
It seemed like a really dumb and divisive thing to do, so I'm glad they reversed it. MH1 Apr 2013 #4
Then you read the second paragraph of their statement, and the topology of their opposition changes Occulus Apr 2013 #6
The Board of Directors has veto power and they used it. Big deal. randome Apr 2013 #11
WikiLeaks defendant not San Fran Pride marshal struggle4progress Apr 2013 #5
Manning is facing a General Court Martial, not a military tribunal. They are not the 24601 Apr 2013 #7
+ struggle4progress Apr 2013 #8
That's fine. Militarists hate him. Some of them are glbt too. But spare us the bullshit: Smarmie Doofus Apr 2013 #9
Not everyone who supports Manning is a progressive, nor is everyone struggle4progress Apr 2013 #10
Translation: blah, blah, disturbed young man, blah, blah, poor SOS Clinton, blah, blah, idwiyo Apr 2013 #12
Manning has done nothing whatsoever helpful with regard to the issues of the secret prisons struggle4progress Apr 2013 #13
Really? Not according to Guardian or BBC. Or did you manage to miss their exposé on secret idwiyo Apr 2013 #14
You might want to search the DU archives from 2004-2005 for discussion of the so-called struggle4progress Apr 2013 #15
The Guardian/BBC Arabic investigation was sparked by the release of classified US military logs idwiyo Apr 2013 #17
So what? We've known for years that during the Bush II era, the neocons struggle4progress Apr 2013 #19
Thanks to Bradley Manning its indisputable now. Not that you would ever admit it. idwiyo Apr 2013 #22
It was indisputable eight years ago struggle4progress Apr 2013 #23
Thanks to Bradley Manning it is indisputable now. All there in those leaked papers for everyone to idwiyo Apr 2013 #24
Bravo railsback Apr 2013 #28
I'm guessing it's just easier to claim to support Manning, than it is to actually pay attention struggle4progress Apr 2013 #30
It's very easy to support someone who provides an irrefutable proof that military was engaged idwiyo Apr 2013 #33
THE TORTURE PAPERS: THE ROAD TO ABU GHRAIB struggle4progress Apr 2013 #35
Classified papers released by Bradley Manning are the ultimate proof. Hard to deny it wasn't a idwiyo May 2013 #38
I agree. Thanks for the reply. nt okaawhatever Apr 2013 #36
Good move... Pelican Apr 2013 #16
Patriot, you mean? Or do you approve of murdering innocent civilians and torture? idwiyo Apr 2013 #18
No I definitely meant scum... Pelican Apr 2013 #31
Why do I ask? It should be obvious. But do pray to tell what is it that Bradley Manning did wrong. idwiyo Apr 2013 #32
Down the list... Pelican Apr 2013 #34
Thanks for admiting that you would just obey your orders, judging by what you wrote. idwiyo May 2013 #37
I think you missed the part... Pelican May 2013 #39
You stated yourself that an oath must be kept, regardless. Meaning you would follow your orders. idwiyo May 2013 #40
Order... Pelican May 2013 #41
Ignore torture as a example. idwiyo May 2013 #42
Finally... Pelican May 2013 #43
Report to your commanders? They would have ordered you to ignore it. As per the the orders they idwiyo May 2013 #44
I agree with Glenn Greenwald on this CrawlingChaos Apr 2013 #20
Protesting what? What did Manning ever do for the LGBT community? Apparently nothing. randome Apr 2013 #21
Apparently something: Smarmie Doofus Apr 2013 #26
Well, that IS something. But holding a sign may not be enough to qualify one for 'Grand Marshal'. randome Apr 2013 #27
Jeeezus, Geenwald's piece is fucking *brilliant*. Smarmie Doofus Apr 2013 #25
*Brilliant* in the sense that if defends Manning worship railsback Apr 2013 #29
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