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billh58

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77. And like the NRA
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 12:37 PM
Apr 2013

you attempt to use "facts" that do not support your assertions, and attempt to imply that more guns equals less crime. That NRA argument is so lame that it's becoming laughable.

That's a Freedom lovin' 'Murican vt_native Apr 2013 #1
Tens of thousands of violent deaths and horrible maimings. Crunchy Frog Apr 2013 #25
Second Amendment Solution in action! johnfunk Apr 2013 #26
Heh. Shadowflash Apr 2013 #2
Saw a friend's kid do that once. Brigid Apr 2013 #20
What was his star rating? jakeXT Apr 2013 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Downwinder Apr 2013 #4
Is it an AK-47 or is it high caliber? (nt) Recursion Apr 2013 #5
Bad editing I'm sure. tclambert Apr 2013 #6
If they just said "22 casings" I suppose I might have misread that for ".22 casings" Recursion Apr 2013 #23
Good thing it wasn't really high caliber weapon. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #9
As it's written it sounds like there were two weapons Recursion Apr 2013 #22
You seem to think the most egregious problem in this story baldguy Apr 2013 #14
The wording makes me think there were two weapons involved Recursion Apr 2013 #16
Bingo! nevergiveup Apr 2013 #36
I thought an AK-47 was 7.62mm TrogL Apr 2013 #52
Here is a tip: I would start by looking into how many AK-47's were lost from fast and furious and midnight Apr 2013 #7
You forgot something... Lordquinton Apr 2013 #111
US civilians buy more AK-47's than Progressive dog Apr 2013 #8
US civilians cannot buy or own AK-47s ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #37
Link easy to find Progressive dog Apr 2013 #39
AK-47s are still not being imported, AWB not withstanding ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #41
Full auto capable is not an assault weapon per the AWB definition Progressive dog Apr 2013 #44
Actually that is not the way the AWB worked ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #45
The weapon in the original post is an AK-47 per the article Progressive dog Apr 2013 #56
The article is clearly incorrect is several respects, that is just one of them ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #57
No inability, you know more about guns hooray Progressive dog Apr 2013 #65
Indeed they are ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #67
true It is the person... mikeysnot Apr 2013 #70
So you fell that in a civilized country Progressive dog Apr 2013 #72
I feel that in a nation where there is a demonstrated inability to protect ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #90
"If a nation can not protect its citizens from predators" Progressive dog Apr 2013 #102
The M16A2 rifle I had last in the U.S. Army fired three round bursts Nika Apr 2013 #81
That is still considered selective fire ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #85
Call Wayne LaPierre. He's good at getting them on the street. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2013 #10
Probably an AK 74 or variant formercia Apr 2013 #11
Could also be a AKM-47 or equivalent ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #42
I read it to say they found 22 shell casings on the ground NickB79 Apr 2013 #91
Here's another local article regarding ID as AK-47 BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #12
You'd feel better if it were the same rifle but looked more traditional. Recursion Apr 2013 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Schema Thing Apr 2013 #27
Quit whining. AK-47's and AR-15's have more than earned their unsavory reputations. Paladin Apr 2013 #33
So we put traditional stocks on them and everyone is OK? ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #47
I'm not blaming the inanimate objects. Paladin Apr 2013 #97
Uh no BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #34
Solve the violence issue and that could become a reality ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #48
There was no "defending" here BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #59
Your solution would be banning the most effective means of self defense ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #66
Your solution promulgates mass unintended casualties BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #88
Your view of the urban masses as a "desensitized and demoralized population" ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #89
Have you been to 8th & Venango? BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #92
It's a matter of life and death. 7wo7rees Apr 2013 #106
Very true oldbanjo Apr 2013 #95
Everyone knows pump-action AK's kill you less dead NickB79 Apr 2013 #93
The Lt is talking out his ass or more likely the "journalist" is ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #43
So you know more than forensic unit staff? Amazing. BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #60
I am tending towards the media screwing it up ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #61
So just hand out AK-47s to every Good Guy in town, then. klook Apr 2013 #13
Here's a free tip: Grenade Launcher. jsr Apr 2013 #15
The launcher itself is legal Recursion Apr 2013 #18
Yawn. Crunchy Frog Apr 2013 #19
Someone walking around with a rifle? Yes Recursion Apr 2013 #21
Gun violence in general. Crunchy Frog Apr 2013 #24
Well it's much more rare than it was a generation ago Recursion Apr 2013 #29
No - people have been getting use to lower levels of gun violence for 20 years now. hack89 Apr 2013 #46
And that is because billh58 Apr 2013 #69
No - it is not because of more guns. hack89 Apr 2013 #71
No, you can't say that billh58 Apr 2013 #74
Aggravated assaults are down too. hack89 Apr 2013 #76
This can't be. AK47s are not assault rifles and no crimes are committed using them jpak Apr 2013 #28
Close Recursion Apr 2013 #31
So, your major problem with the story isn't the incident itself, but the reporting of it. baldguy Apr 2013 #38
There is a someone with a gun doing bad things and this is a serious concern ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #50
There is a someone with a gun doing bad things and this is a serious concern. baldguy Apr 2013 #51
I have commented on that elsewhere ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #87
If every person who lives on Venango Street and 8th Street mercymechap Apr 2013 #30
Bodies piling up from "friendly fire". Crunchy Frog Apr 2013 #32
like or agree heaven05 Apr 2013 #35
A crackdown on Americans, but not on guns. Crunchy Frog Apr 2013 #40
you heaven05 Apr 2013 #49
History would disagree with you hack89 Apr 2013 #53
anything heaven05 Apr 2013 #54
I have hard facts on my side hack89 Apr 2013 #63
And like the NRA billh58 Apr 2013 #77
I explicitly say that more guns DO NOT equal less crime. hack89 Apr 2013 #79
fine heaven05 Apr 2013 #96
So you think the FBI and DOJ are hiding the truth? hack89 Apr 2013 #98
Head heaven05 Apr 2013 #104
I doubt your personal fears are going to be sufficient to convince gun owners hack89 Apr 2013 #105
you heaven05 Apr 2013 #114
Ignorance in the defense of a good cause is still ignorance hack89 Apr 2013 #115
Think how low it would be without all our guns, gun nuts, acceptance of all things guns, etc. Hoyt Apr 2013 #55
But, according to the DU's very own RW gun nerds, America is the most violent place in the world. baldguy Apr 2013 #58
It is funny when they say crime is decreasing, then in the next post they are encouraging arming up Hoyt Apr 2013 #64
No - most of us gun owners don't think that hack89 Apr 2013 #68
See what you did there? billh58 Apr 2013 #73
Because for some here, any disagreement is extremism hack89 Apr 2013 #75
The only thing that billh58 Apr 2013 #78
So you do not support universal background checks? ok. nt hack89 Apr 2013 #80
Oh just fucking wonderful. billh58 Apr 2013 #62
I care a lot about the details. sofa king Apr 2013 #82
Someone used a rifle billh58 Apr 2013 #86
At the time of that writing, the guy was on the loose. sofa king Apr 2013 #108
The only thing wrong with that story billh58 Apr 2013 #109
I bought a sofa from you once olddots Apr 2013 #110
I like you descriptions. A Simple Game Apr 2013 #99
No, I'm talking about my running ass! sofa king Apr 2013 #107
geez!!!!!! heaven05 Apr 2013 #116
That's the fault of the average citizen, ain't it? sofa king Apr 2013 #119
trust me heaven05 Apr 2013 #120
Well, this information is critical TheCowsCameHome Apr 2013 #83
moron is coming out of one of those close houses to play with his toy-get more cameras. Sunlei Apr 2013 #84
A murderer is roaming the streets with a deadly weapon, killing and maiming people. drm604 Apr 2013 #94
That's how it works with the gun nuts mokawanis Apr 2013 #100
and thats why Duckhunter935 Apr 2013 #101
Let's see. Was it maybe a designer weapon? Pink? Chartreuse? Why debate type. Death is death. Lint Head Apr 2013 #103
Look! It's another law-abiding citizen exercising his second amendment rights! struggle4progress Apr 2013 #112
Hey there, you left out Mooslims, dronz and FEMA camps. And Obama cellphones. freshwest Apr 2013 #121
AK-47 Semi-Automatic Linked to 4 Philly Shootings struggle4progress Apr 2013 #113
another police dept trying to take guns away from "hunters" like this! (sarcasm) wordpix Apr 2013 #117
All of Philadelphia is on lockdown, now, right? (nt) harmonicon Apr 2013 #118
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