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hunter

(38,304 posts)
23. I graduated without debt, a very respectable university science degree.
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 04:26 PM
Aug 2018

My student fees were less than $1200 annually, thank you California, my housing was typically $80-125 a month, and I was pretty good at semi-skilled labor like loading and unloading trucks or maintaining crappy student housing, usually for $6 an hour or more. That was a lot of money then.

As a bonus, my grandma sent me $100 a month for food, and popcorn at the movies with a date, whenever I was actually enrolled in school. (My grandma was a hard ass about school, I was the first in her family to attend university, and she expected to make a good show of it, even though I was as bat-shit crazy as she was.) I also got a few grants for textbooks and the like along the way.

I once flunked organic chemistry because I could make too much money cutting o-chem classes Tuesday and Thursday to move furniture. My first hundred dollar working day was moving furniture deep into overtime when I should have been studying o-chem.

My kids had very hefty scholarships but they still graduated from college deep in debt, and the employment they found while in school paid considerably less than what I got in inflation adjusted dollars.

I think college and technical school should be free for anyone at any age. In this modern world of automation and other technological miracles there are simply not enough good paying no-skill and semi-skill jobs to go around. College keeps people out of trouble and has great potential for graduating people who will make the world a much better place, not just the science, medicine, and engineering people, but the language majors, artists, and philosophers too.



wow...there should be universal college education in the US gopiscrap Aug 2018 #1
Kick dalton99a Aug 2018 #2
I agree ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #3
40k is low these days. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #4
It doesn't have to be that way. Drahthaardogs Aug 2018 #7
My daughter did that and it was a horrible experience CozyMystery Aug 2018 #12
I just got the same thing about taxes. xmas74 Aug 2018 #16
I went to a very expensive, excellent state school. a la izquierda Aug 2018 #13
I have no undergrad debt, but went to graduate school because I smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #17
The system must change, it's grossly unfair and burdens young appalachiablue Aug 2018 #5
*Rolling Jubilee & Strike Debt* Helping with Debt, Resources. appalachiablue Aug 2018 #26
That's genuinely sad. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #6
it's a cultural thing. this includes viewing certain types of schools/education as lesser JI7 Aug 2018 #8
That's a good point. Harker Aug 2018 #11
Yes very much so. EllieBC Aug 2018 #15
Yep. Americans buy into the illusion of college education. MariaCSR Aug 2018 #18
good advice. even to take just prerequisites at local community college keeps costs lower. Sunlei Aug 2018 #19
The other thing more people should do is PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #21
most community colleges offer some classes at night & weekends. Sunlei Aug 2018 #29
Some community colleges PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #30
You should major in what you love and what makes your whole life richer. meadowlander Aug 2018 #22
I have often told you people to major in what they love. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #24
In forty or fifty years when these kids come to collect social security, meadowlander Aug 2018 #25
I really doubt that the average lifespan is going to increase PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #28
People wrongly attribute their divorces to all kinds of things Nash Teeth Aug 2018 #9
Bite the bullet Maxheader Aug 2018 #10
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Aug 2018 #14
I believe it. christx30 Aug 2018 #20
I graduated without debt, a very respectable university science degree. hunter Aug 2018 #23
My niece has a $80000 student loan to get a worthless journalism degree, she is making $12 doc03 Aug 2018 #27
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