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calimary

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78. I just had to memorialize this quote.
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 10:01 AM
Sep 2017

REMARKABLE quote - from a disenchanted supporter. And frankly, I don't know what the immediate go-to is, regarding how one reacts to this. Disappointment? Outrage? Pity?

Part of me wants to shake people like this and roar into their faces - "WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK???????!!!?!?!?!?" Just how badly (or bigly) did you allow yourself to be conned? Not just WHY did you buy this, but HOW could you buy this? How could you not see this was a big fat con that was being pulled on you?

And then there's the part of me that thinks maybe the thing to do is try to go easy on some of these folks and TRY, anyway, to lead this horse to water and help him or her take the life-saving drink of fresh, pure, life-saving water. Except they WANTED to head straight for almost certain death by dehydration! And they were just sure it'd work out well, anyway, 'cause this guy sold it so well - it'll be easy, it'll be done in a day, there's gonna be so much winning, you're gonna get tired of winning...

I met one of these yesterday. A fellow who repaired something for me. When I drove out to pick it up and pay him, we got into conversation - inevitably, about current events. You should have seen his posture. His body language told all - even more than the words falling from his lips did. He'd voted for trump. And he was standing there, in much the same posture that John Kelly had, backstage, while grimacing through trump's fire 'n' brimstone about Charlottesville, the day he really dug himself down into the depths of the neo-Nazi apologist sewer. Slightly hunched over, eyes cast down toward the ground, a slumping defensive posture where you're literally protecting your soft underbelly. He was shaking his head. His voice sounding defeated and discouraged and disillusioned, but not quite ready to admit the fault was half his own for allowing himself to fall for the sales pitch. And it started. "I voted for trump, I don't know... I have a friend in New York who knew him and he was this very successful businessman who was gonna turn this around... "

Shit - I kept thinking "where do I start with the debunking job here?" Because I can't NOT feel that it's at least partially the fault of THESE VOTERS who allowed themselves to be conned. Who grasped at straws, thinking those straws were really life preservers. I'm sorry. WE all heard the same baloney. WE all heard the same sales pitches and sloganeering and cheap-ass easy-street slicky-boy talk. And WE weren't fooled. WE weren't taken in by a single syllable of it. WE had our heads screwed on securely and didn't let them float up into the clouds so it's not possible to see, with any clear vision, the pie-in-the-sky land that was being embroidered by this world-class phony-ass snake-oil salesman.

I listened. Tried as gently and subtly as possible to suggest that it was all a con - that this guy is in NO WAY ON EARTH fit to be anywhere near the White House, much less installed inside there. But I found myself mostly listening as this guy was finally trying to grope his way through the fog to that life-saving water to which we in the real world tried in vain to lead voters like him, last year. Tried very hard not to punish or sneer, or tell him what I really thought. Tried just to listen. The only message I tried to use to get through to this gent was "you CAN'T RUN GOVERNMENT LIKE A BUSINESS! You just CAN'T! They're TWO SEPARATE THINGS! They're NOT THE SAME!!! They DON'T have the same goals, they DON'T have the same objectives, and they DON'T have the same reason for being! Business is there TO MAKE A PROFIT. And ONLY to make a profit. Government is NOT there to make a profit!!!!! Government is there to serve the needs of the people, and take responsibility for managing and serving the greater good. Making a profit just doesn't figure in there. It's certainly not in the Constitution anywhere.

He promised us chicken salad C_U_L8R Aug 2017 #1
Well said! Glorfindel Aug 2017 #16
Lol.... Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #34
Altering slightly what my Granddaddy said: "Donald Trump will never end up NCjack Aug 2017 #55
That's awesome! Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #57
That sums it up nicely Miles Archer Aug 2017 #52
Someone should serve Trump some chocolate pie IronLionZion Aug 2017 #65
roflmao! SusanaMontana41 Aug 2017 #73
Except he didn't sell anyone any Escalade. He sold them a rotten soup Squinch Aug 2017 #2
With a generous helping of xenophobia... Hugin Aug 2017 #4
I think what is going on is that some of the sexists and racists who thought he was such Squinch Aug 2017 #11
THIS Atman Aug 2017 #15
Exactly. And trump(R)'s stupidity is inescapable, so they are realizing that they were Squinch Aug 2017 #17
Also, there were many of them who were voting against someone. Hugin Aug 2017 #21
Again there, though... there has NEVER been anything to any of the Squinch Aug 2017 #25
"They WANTED to believe..." Hugin Aug 2017 #30
Not at all. And yes, it breaks my heart whenever I think of what could have been. Squinch Aug 2017 #33
You Read My Mind! Leith Aug 2017 #45
+1 spooky3 Aug 2017 #50
With a cherry of misogny on top lark Aug 2017 #68
Except what the media told us was unblock Aug 2017 #10
I wonder what part of the phrase 'Grab them by the pussy' confused them. icymist Aug 2017 #12
it was jaw-dropping to hear that, and the media to fail to instantly kill his candidacy unblock Aug 2017 #20
I marvel on this exact point... Daily. Hugin Aug 2017 #22
I know. And I do agree that the media was horrible. But as I say, every time trump(R) Squinch Aug 2017 #13
+10000+ zentrum Aug 2017 #38
For them, that soup WAS an Escalade! TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #49
And they bought it. So who is to blame. Blue_true Aug 2017 #58
yes, Their Vote for him said A LOT about themselves JI7 Aug 2017 #61
+1, fuck the "we were fooled" bullshit uponit7771 Aug 2017 #62
Whatever ya call what he sold, tRump voters enabled this... RiverStone Aug 2017 #72
Exactly misanthrope Aug 2017 #75
It's got a headlight out and backfires every 100 feet.... kentuck Aug 2017 #3
Those people saw exactly who and what they were voting for. icymist Aug 2017 #5
they refused to believe reality and voted for a reality TV star rurallib Aug 2017 #7
Wasn't even real reality TV. icymist Aug 2017 #8
Yep. They don't get to hide from it now. Squinch Aug 2017 #14
Yep, how did they not see it? gratuitous Aug 2017 #32
But I trust my pastor/fox/fellow teabaggers to tell me what I'm seeing. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2017 #42
They do. zentrum Aug 2017 #39
Either they are supporting this idiocy, or they are idiots who fell for lies IronLionZion Aug 2017 #66
He is no more or no less than what should have been expected by anyone paying attention. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2017 #6
They didn't want to see what he was selling. MontanaMama Aug 2017 #9
Had he not been a trust fund baby, he'd be a used car salesman Major Nikon Aug 2017 #18
Nah. He'd be on the street. No one would stand for his bullshit if he didn't already have $ Squinch Aug 2017 #27
Collection Empty Aluminium Cans ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #47
"I can overlook a lot. But the car delivered didn't even have the promised TrukNutz :(" struggle4progress Aug 2017 #19
+1 Hugin Aug 2017 #23
But aren't they're disappointed because he hasn't delivered the things we fear? eleny Aug 2017 #24
He promised to have deported all Latinos, Muslims, blacks and liberal women by now Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #26
Naw. He sold "stickn' it to THOSE people"... JHB Aug 2017 #28
+1 zentrum Aug 2017 #40
It's goddamn good that's all he delivered to that bastard. Otherwise things would be a lot worse The_Casual_Observer Aug 2017 #29
More like he sold you a shit sandwich, but you thought it was a Kobe beef hamburger, GoCubsGo Aug 2017 #31
That's a lie. johnp3907 Aug 2017 #35
This. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2017 #43
+1, "... I didn't know he was THAT racist ... " is going to be their next line uponit7771 Aug 2017 #63
Makings of a pop songwriter. nt zentrum Aug 2017 #36
I wonder LittleGirl Aug 2017 #37
Sorry, no dice. ClusterFreak Aug 2017 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Aug 2017 #44
There was an analyst on MSNBC that said his voters "were expecting Ronald Reagan but... George II Aug 2017 #46
I am convinced the election was sto!en Hulk Smash II Aug 2017 #48
but the guy driving the truck still has his goofy red hat on. riversedge Aug 2017 #51
Who said this? Link please? nt LAS14 Aug 2017 #53
It's from one of the focus groups going around today. Atman Aug 2017 #56
Where does one look at these focus groups? nt LAS14 Aug 2017 #67
That description sounds like a Cadillac Escalade... VMA131Marine Aug 2017 #54
"Cadillac Escalade" reminds me of this. Different Drummer Aug 2017 #59
"Cadillac Escalade" is code for "The Big Wall, No Obamacare, Muslim Immigrant Ban, and 'LOCK HER WinkyDink Aug 2017 #60
Actually it was more like Downtown Hound Aug 2017 #64
no dude, you got a bicycle with two flat tires. Javaman Aug 2017 #69
Trumps' M.O. his whole life. alarimer Aug 2017 #70
I see the situation as sort of a reverse "Emperor's New Clothes." DFW Aug 2017 #71
Of course you heard this. LanternWaste Aug 2017 #74
Conway says humility! n/t deek Aug 2017 #76
Awesome quote!!! hamsterjill Aug 2017 #77
I just had to memorialize this quote. calimary Sep 2017 #78
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