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KnR! Cha Jun 2017 #1
And yet elections officials REFUSE to do hand recounts, and intimidate citizens who question results diva77 Jun 2017 #2
There was a time when this would be a major story on the likes of 60 Minutes Ligyron Jun 2017 #17
What are you going to do when it is also a meh issue for Democrats? LiberalLovinLug Jun 2017 #35
I posted action alert;might help to start holding elections officials accountable for epic failure diva77 Jun 2017 #37
Amen!! stevepal Jun 2017 #76
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jun 2017 #3
Yes, we have known about the hacking for years.... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #4
Dem leaders say voters will lose confidence onit2day Jun 2017 #64
Each voter deserves a RECEIPT of his vote. And the district needs to keep a copy Maraya1969 Jun 2017 #5
I thought receipts were the answer too, but I was told they aren't, CrispyQ Jun 2017 #71
Or the districts that refuse could be threatened with 2nd amendment remedies Maraya1969 Jun 2017 #6
We need to begin today shouting this from the rooftops... lastlib Jun 2017 #12
K&R'd & bookmarked. snot Jun 2017 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author snot Jun 2017 #8
I've have been saying for years that is would be reasonably easy to find this sort of hacking. Stonepounder Jun 2017 #9
I totally agree kyburbonkid Jun 2017 #21
C-span video of computer science expert testifying before Senate Intel to that effect last week: Amaryllis Jun 2017 #10
Duh. n/t tazkcmo Jun 2017 #11
the hell else do we need.... dhill926 Jun 2017 #13
It is too simple to just say, "optical scan bad, hand count good". Crash2Parties Jun 2017 #14
Optical scan verified with hand count better. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2017 #24
The gold standard! Mopar151 Jun 2017 #34
You know what's also too simple? Reductive statements. kcr Jun 2017 #47
Not the best way kwijybo Jun 2017 #15
We need to repeat, over and over: "ALL elections must be with paper ballots and MUST be audited" JoeOtterbein Jun 2017 #16
What is so difficult about this concept? Very advanced countries use paper ballots with no problems. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #18
Optical scanners USE PAPER BALLOTS OldRedneck Jun 2017 #20
A verifiable audit would be done by hand. Ballots would be chain-of-custody verified. No business JoeOtterbein Jun 2017 #31
Would someone please get a grip on reality??? OldRedneck Jun 2017 #19
Does your machine accept a memory card? PoliticAverse Jun 2017 #23
Pointless video that proves nothing Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #50
Thank you for your contribution. A few questions: Girard442 Jun 2017 #25
NOt OldRedneck, but I can answer those questions for Colorado vote by mail ballots. politicat Jun 2017 #38
just because hacking hasn't occurred on your watch does not mean it never happens. no one is saying TheFrenchRazor Jun 2017 #65
And I am not saying it hasn't happened elsewhere, or that it's impossible here. politicat Jun 2017 #77
I can answer all those for NC at least Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #48
there's simply no need for computers period Blues Heron Jun 2017 #27
Thank you! Treat a vote as a valuable as a $100 bill is to a business: check it by hand and eye! JoeOtterbein Jun 2017 #33
... you do know that it's trivially simple to fool several counterfeit tests? politicat Jun 2017 #39
The premise is that the base code of the voting machine has been compromised. Calista241 Jun 2017 #36
There shouldn't be any base code at all Blues Heron Jun 2017 #41
If you plug anything into a wall for power, there going to be code Calista241 Jun 2017 #45
Secret proprietary code has no place in voting. Blues Heron Jun 2017 #49
Secret proprietary code is more secure, and harder to hack, than open source code. Calista241 Jun 2017 #54
Like I said you are a very trusting soul LOL Blues Heron Jun 2017 #55
I work in software security, and what I said is a fact. Has nothing to do with trust. Calista241 Jun 2017 #56
It's irrelevant, we don't need the computers period. Blues Heron Jun 2017 #57
maybe, assuming there are no bad actors, which would be a very naive assumption, IMO. nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2017 #66
Thank you, way to much tinfoil around here on this topic Amishman Jun 2017 #42
There isn't only one premise. kcr Jun 2017 #44
How is the data procured if they aren't connected in any way except an electrical cord? kcr Jun 2017 #43
There are two ways Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #53
Just because there's no connection to the internet kcr Jun 2017 #59
Not impossible in theory but in practice and application it is fantasy Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #60
That's great but we could vote tomorrow on pen and paper Blues Heron Jun 2017 #61
You realize fraud happened all the time with paper, right? Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #62
So lets see the code if it's so great Blues Heron Jun 2017 #63
So much wrong with your post. kcr Jun 2017 #72
Then tell me one plausible method Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #73
executable files can be loaded via a memory card. nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2017 #67
And how are they doing that? Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #69
Whether or not Russia actually hacked the vote, it simply shouldn't be possible to hack the vote. unblock Jun 2017 #22
correct; some people refuse to get this. nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2017 #68
Chimp Hacks Diebold GEMS tabulator turbinetree Jun 2017 #26
Just like healthcare we are doing this wrong Moral Compass Jun 2017 #28
Segment from "Hacking Democracy" (2006) demonstrating hack of optical scanner machine... PoliticAverse Jun 2017 #29
This map does not show it but.... prairierose Jun 2017 #30
I like the look of those hand-counted paper ballot districts. byronius Jun 2017 #32
Well we better hope there are some Good Hackers Thrill Jun 2017 #40
Nothing in the linked article backs up the headline Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #46
Nobody's even allowed to see the secret proprietary code Blues Heron Jun 2017 #51
And even if it's not hacked, there might be glitches and errors: DetlefK Jun 2017 #52
geez, looking at that map bdamomma Jun 2017 #58
The takeaway here: All methods are flawed and we're likely never to have another clean election. BannonsLiver Jun 2017 #70
They are optical scan vote counting machines Progressive dog Jun 2017 #74
Duh colsohlibgal Jun 2017 #75
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