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Hortensis

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36. Umhm. Throw off his whole agenda that actually
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 05:54 AM
Mar 2017

included trying to come through on some of his promises to his voters, plus spend, spend, spend on military and infrastructure? And/or Ryan? This from Vox:

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) said in 2015 that when he was elected, in 2010, he thought it meant a critical mass of voters supported free-market principles; but when he saw those same voters gravitating to Trump, he realized “they’re just voting for the craziest guy in the race.” The merits of that observation aside, the point remains that the political base of the Freedom Caucus and the political base of the administration with whom they’re negotiating are one and the same.

That political base, of course, is sold on the idea of Obamacare reform because they’re sold on Trump’s promises that they will have better, cheaper insurance than they have right now.


The Freedom Caucus's actions are here diametrically opposed to its voters' wishes.

Wonder what's happening with the Koch alliance. Jane Mayer reported that, after Obama's election, over 700 centimillionaires and billionaires attended their next big meeting. Huge leap in size. Supposedly the Freedom caucus is having something of an "identity crisis" now that they don't have a Democratic president to oppose. Is a large part of the alliance?

Have a nice one.
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Cool! coeur_de_lion Mar 2017 #22
I'm considering it through my grandmother. I know of Alice11111 Mar 2017 #27
A number of my cousins have. H2O Man Mar 2017 #29
I need to learn more. Everyone on that side has died off. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #35
K&R... spanone Mar 2017 #12
It's been quite H2O Man Mar 2017 #13
the daily gobsmack spanone Mar 2017 #14
Ryan went down the tubes with Republicans controlling the House... Miles Archer Mar 2017 #15
Maybe, Ryan's tenure as Speaker will soon end. Hugin Mar 2017 #17
Well said! H2O Man Mar 2017 #21
Happy about the rejection of the repeal and replace bill but coeur_de_lion Mar 2017 #18
In my opinion, H2O Man Mar 2017 #19
schadenfreude coeur_de_lion Mar 2017 #24
The "more conservative faction" is an extreme-right Hortensis Mar 2017 #23
Thanks for your analysis coeur_de_lion Mar 2017 #25
If only. No analysis, only questions. Hortensis Mar 2017 #30
Very good questions coeur_de_lion Mar 2017 #34
Umhm. Throw off his whole agenda that actually Hortensis Mar 2017 #36
It was all CYA for 2018. Some Repubs wouldn't get re-elected Alice11111 Mar 2017 #28
Paul Ryan is pulling himself up... dchill Mar 2017 #26
Yes to that last. True libertarians reportedly have one Hortensis Mar 2017 #31
"Ryan clearly has no conscience." and he is an arrogant asshole..(apologies to assholes) Stuart G Mar 2017 #32
K/R Not only is the Ryan/Trump plan unacceptable, the ACA is a mere half measure. Alex4Martinez Mar 2017 #33
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