Something kind of hit me today.

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33. Military, econ, and social are all different facets. Neocons

are primarily very similar to the hard right militarily. But, as I said, not socially. That's an indicator of those who came from somewhere on the radical/extremist left originally--but who are NOT and almost always never were liberals.

I am a proud liberal and am no more going to accept the typical insult of having to "own" left-wing extremists/cum right-wing extremists/cum neocons as my own than I'm going to accept the self-serving trumpster lie that liberals were really the pro-slavery people.

We have to understand what liberalism is, and is not, if we are to save the nation for which we stand, which is based on a heritage of liberal principles. That's why we're under such harsh attack. Liberalism's enemies are out to destroy government of, by and for the people, the principle of equality of all men, and OUR power to use OUR government to make OUR lives better.