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Hortensis

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20. Yes. Plutocrats formed think tanks as fronts for their agenda,
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:29 PM
Feb 2017

as you say, the arrival of a bunch of new ones, plus refunding/remissioning of some existing.

The alliance of neocons with the religious right certainly supports your thinking. Neocons would always prefer to fight enemies than make friends, as someone said, and where better to find battles that must be joined than through religion?

As near as I have been able to tell, though, virtually no neocons were former liberals, which requires an open-mindedness and acceptance of the ideas of others, and specifically a relative lack of aggression for its own sake. Carter's, bless him, exemplified a liberal response to problems.

Most neocons were naturally farther left to begin with, the type of illiberal critics for whom intolerance and search for extreme answers are normal, who eventually moved militarily farther "left" so to speak to join with their right-wing ideological cousins, including the religious right. You can still see their origins in attitudes where they split with the hard right on social policy.

Some neocons perhaps would have started as conservatives, of course, as indicated by the tie you make to the sort of young conservatives who joined new, cooler organizational offshoots of their parents' hard-core John Birch Society, etc.

I'm hopeful that the political disasters threatening our nation are prompting more research into personality in politics, although it will tend to draw (still) attempts at repression. I used to think education was key above all, that it would save us, but that ignorance, at least, has been blasted.


I've been thinking about Reagan, too. Rhiannon12866 Feb 2017 #1
Yes! That's what I mean. Thanks. C Moon Feb 2017 #2
Awwww! Thank you! Rhiannon12866 Feb 2017 #3
If we had more people, politicians and presidents like Jimmy Carter C Moon Feb 2017 #4
The other thing about him, besides being incredibly smart Rhiannon12866 Feb 2017 #7
I think it's terriffic that you are so interested in Jimmy Carter. C Moon Feb 2017 #9
When he was first elected, he reached out to the remaining living presidents Rhiannon12866 Feb 2017 #12
I have written here for a long time that the Republican party vlyons Feb 2017 #5
I wholly agree. How they bluff voters into their web of deceit is a mystery. C Moon Feb 2017 #6
RW voters vote out of habit vlyons Feb 2017 #8
Man. Your in a nutshell description is great. C Moon Feb 2017 #10
I grew up in Texas, moved to Calif where I lived for 31 years vlyons Feb 2017 #13
Jesus! C Moon Feb 2017 #22
I heard my congressman, Jeb Hensarling, at a town hall say vlyons Feb 2017 #23
I hate that Henserling.. coco22 Feb 2017 #27
As a Buddhist, it took me a long time to get past hating him vlyons Feb 2017 #29
He keeps a low profile and that is why I bring up his name.. coco22 Feb 2017 #30
He has much more power as Finance chair vlyons Feb 2017 #31
Yes,very devious,sneaky.. coco22 Feb 2017 #32
Remember Limbaugh was in the mix.. coco22 Feb 2017 #28
Reagan's people cozied up to the preachers FiveGoodMen Feb 2017 #26
..."organized to ... Whiskeytide Feb 2017 #24
the party benefitted as well. they are all traitors. pansypoo53219 Feb 2017 #11
I disagree with this point. I believe polling shows Republicans changed with Gingrich. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2017 #14
End of the cold war required typical cons to find a new enemy Hortensis Feb 2017 #15
your point is well made. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2017 #19
Yes. Plutocrats formed think tanks as fronts for their agenda, Hortensis Feb 2017 #20
Wolfowitz joined the civil rights March on Washington. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2017 #25
Military, econ, and social are all different facets. Neocons Hortensis Feb 2017 #33
Read Jane Mayer and others about the rise of what you Hortensis Feb 2017 #16
Yes, they started by buying up outlets that could help them change the culture Nay Feb 2017 #17
Lewis Powell, who was rewarded with a SCOTUS seat, Hortensis Feb 2017 #18
No - when they started, many DID did "believe" in him BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #21
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