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calimary

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69. She's quite correct. We have to get a LOT more militant about it. And relentlessly, too.
Tue May 1, 2012, 12:13 AM
May 2012

And it's really put us, and our country, our whole society, at risk. We've been WAAAAAY too lax on fiercely protecting the ground we've gained, at the same time that we have adversaries who are out for blood, around the clock, and NEVER rest or relax or savor what they've won. They're ALWAYS on a rampage. Which means we also ALWAYS have to be on guard. We can't just roll over and go back to sleep once some law has been passed or some new civil right has been secured or beneficial new program has been enacted. We have to back all of those up with determination and force, and be The Firewall From Hell to the bastards who would send us careening back in time to some imaginary utopian Beaver Cleaver America that never really existed (except for a very lucky and wealthy few).

We have to be combatants - on offense, not reacting or playing defense. Proactive like we've never been proactive before.

Scuba, I think your liberal sister just summed it up REALLY succinctly. Just NAILED it in a way I've not seen put to words so basically.

"Damn the Republicans and their long-term strategy -- makes me think of JFK's book 'While England Slept.' We've been doing our liberal thing -- live and let live -- while they've been taking over the weak minds of weak people."

We've been doing our liberal thing -- live and let live... I think that sums it ALL up.

Funny thing since you mention "live and let live." Anybody here old enough to remember the whole Anita Bryant mini-travesty? The one-time Miss America second-runner-up (she was Miss Oklahoma), became a pop singer and variety show staple during the '50s and '60s, a conservative Christian who made her religion part of her public persona, and later, a Florida orange juice spokesperson, who shot herself in the foot with the public in the late '70s when she careened off into this rabid nationwide anti-gay crusade. She was the bane of civil rights and gay rights advocates everywhere, and her strident anti-gay activism eventually killed her career. Her first marriage ended in divorce, and it was rumored that one of her sons was gay, although I can't find anything concrete to back that up. If anything, her oldest son was actually a LOT more tolerant and liberal than she was on the subject of gay rights. Even he once commented that he thought the rough times she went through after she stuck her neck out had forced her to rethink her extremism - by saying she learned to "live and let live."

In a 1980 Ladies Home Journal interview, following her divorce and in the aftermath of her anti-gay activism, Bryant commented on her anti-gay views and said, "I'm more inclined to say live and let live, just don't flaunt it or try to legalize it."[14]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Bryant

Kind of weird - you look at her photos in this Wikipedia write-up, and if you put eye-glasses on her, you'd have sarah palin.

Yes I'd say she does madokie Apr 2012 #1
So... Bradford Apr 2012 #2
Sounds like you don't..n/t monmouth Apr 2012 #3
Yup, someone who for sure doesn't.....pass the popcorn, please? :) LiberalLoner Apr 2012 #4
We're gonna need a bigger tub pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #8
LOL! :) LiberalLoner Apr 2012 #11
Bradford, we hardly knew ya. Jackpine Radical Apr 2012 #40
7 & done pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #42
I miss the actual tombstones... RevStPatrick Apr 2012 #48
Would that tombstone be pepperoni by any chance? Ecumenist Apr 2012 #57
I think he is making a point. Some liberals dont want to take the time to educate rhett o rick Apr 2012 #60
In this case, there was little chance of educating our new friend pinboy3niner May 2012 #70
Yes you most likely are correct. However, there is a point to be made here. rhett o rick May 2012 #77
So... BlueToTheBone Apr 2012 #5
Do I hate the guy? No. I'm not even disappointed. jerseyjack Apr 2012 #14
how about Mason Dixon Apr 2012 #64
No, but if you're fearful, ignorant and racist you almost certainly don't like the President. Scuba Apr 2012 #7
No, you left out white. Fearful, ignorant, racist and nonwhite doesn't add up to disliking Obama saras Apr 2012 #18
nonwhite doesn't add up to disliking Obama AlbertCat Apr 2012 #33
Pretty much. nt bemildred Apr 2012 #9
That's not at all what she said... Whiskeytide Apr 2012 #10
Nicely done. Thanks. Scuba Apr 2012 #12
You speak the truth Bradford Apr 2012 #13
Welcome JNelson6563 Apr 2012 #16
Notice that Bradford doees not claim to be a Democrat pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #23
Well then, JNelson6563 Apr 2012 #26
Nice catch. 12AngryBorneoWildmen Apr 2012 #29
It's true Bradford Apr 2012 #30
Where should revenue come from? cyberswede Apr 2012 #31
In the era of which he speaks, tariffs were the major income source Jackpine Radical Apr 2012 #41
Is income tax Obama's fault?? DaveJ Apr 2012 #35
Never said Bradford Apr 2012 #37
Helping people helps society as a whole DaveJ Apr 2012 #39
Did you dislike Bush because of income tax too? nt DocMac Apr 2012 #51
Silly. Read this book. HughBeaumont Apr 2012 #65
Ah, yes. The RMoney/Ryan budget plan. pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #68
I replied to that post. DocMac Apr 2012 #32
:) pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #34
Indeed. DocMac Apr 2012 #43
Well I wouldn't advise holding your breath :) pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #45
Unsolicited Advice re: Jumping to conclusions based on one little forum post: BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2012 #38
Just who are you going to vote for in November? xtraxritical Apr 2012 #44
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2012 #15
Don't believe in free speech much? JayhawkSD Apr 2012 #25
Right. The GOVERNMENT has no business suppressing free speech. Jackpine Radical Apr 2012 #46
He's free to say what he wants. DocMac Apr 2012 #47
I'm quite a fan of free speech... Whiskeytide Apr 2012 #56
it isn't? hfojvt Apr 2012 #50
I wasn't suggesting that ... Whiskeytide Apr 2012 #55
I know that serial killers exist too hfojvt Apr 2012 #61
hold on - let's look carefully at what she said... Whiskeytide Apr 2012 #67
right, if you sift it and twist it enough, then it doesn't mean what it clearly means hfojvt May 2012 #72
Your point is well taken... Whiskeytide May 2012 #75
Noooo, if you don't like Obama because of the lies republicants tell... louis-t Apr 2012 #20
In your case that probably does. Enjoy your stay. kestrel91316 Apr 2012 #21
Here's your site CanonRay Apr 2012 #54
not necessarily, if you're a progressive Skittles Apr 2012 #63
You're being obtuse on purpose or you definitely don't get it. n/t vaberella May 2012 #73
sleep well, sweet, sweet prince.... dionysus May 2012 #76
The problem with our party Lawlbringer Apr 2012 #6
The corporate owned media wendylaroux Apr 2012 #17
Should be Taylor Smite Apr 2012 #19
Oh good, I get to correct my big sister!!! Scuba Apr 2012 #22
Savor it. JNelson6563 Apr 2012 #27
She's awesome... Scuba Apr 2012 #28
OMG, a Wisconsin Burqa! Jackpine Radical Apr 2012 #49
Hey, last time I posted that pic you called it "Cheesehead bank robber chic" or some such nonesense. Scuba Apr 2012 #52
A foolish consistency Jackpine Radical Apr 2012 #59
weak minds of weak people. it's all about the slogan and the bumper sticker Suji to Seoul Apr 2012 #24
That is an interesting question... Xyzse Apr 2012 #36
You sister has got it, alright. K & R. Needs to be said! freshwest Apr 2012 #53
Trade your sister for my brother... Rhiannon12866 Apr 2012 #58
The 'Forward' video Tx4obama Apr 2012 #62
That was excellent! applegrove Apr 2012 #66
She's quite correct. We have to get a LOT more militant about it. And relentlessly, too. calimary May 2012 #69
The Only Part She Doesn't Get AndyTiedye May 2012 #71
Out. of. the. park. upi402 May 2012 #74
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