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Octafish

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66. Nixon would know. As veep, he ordered CIA to hire MAFIA to kill Castro.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 07:20 PM
Aug 2014

A decade later, in his job as president, Nixon approved hiring a Secret Service man who said he'd 'kill on command' to guard Ted Kennedy. You can hear Nixon and Haldeman discuss it, about 40 minutes into the HBO documentary "Nixon by Nixon."



Ted Kennedy survived Richard Nixon's Plots

By Don Fulsom

In September 1972, Nixon’s continued political fear, personal loathing, and jealously of Kennedy led him to plant a spy in Kennedy’s Secret Service detail.

The mole Nixon selected for the Kennedy camp was already being groomed. He was a former agent from his Nixon’s vice presidential detail, Robert Newbrand—a man so loyal he once pledged he would do anything—even kill—for Nixon.

The President was most interested in learning about the Sen. Kennedy’s sex life. He wanted, more than anything, stated Haldeman in The Ends of Power, to “catch (Kennedy) in the sack with one of his babes.”

In a recently transcribed tape of a September 8, 1972 talk among the President and aides Bob Haldeman and Alexander Butterfield, Nixon asks whether Secret Service chief James Rowley would appoint Newbrand to head Kennedy’s detail:

Haldeman: He's to assign Newbrand.

President Nixon: Does he understand that he's to do that?

Butterfield: He's effectively already done it. And we have a full force assigned, 40 men.

Haldeman: I told them to put a big detail on him (unclear).

President Nixon: A big detail is correct. One that can cover him around the clock, every place he goes. (Laughter obscures mixed voices.)

President Nixon: Right. No, that's really true. He has got to have the same coverage that we give the others, because we're concerned about security and we will not assume the responsibility unless we're with him all the time.

Haldeman: And Amanda Burden (one of Kennedy’s alleged girlfriends) can't be trusted. (Unclear.) You never know what she might do. (Unclear.)

Haldeman then assures the President that Newbrand “will do anything that I tell him to … He really will. And he has come to me twice and absolutely, sincerely said, "With what you've done for me and what the President's done for me, I just want you to know, if you want someone killed, if you want anything else done, any way, any direction …"

President Nixon: The thing that I (unclear) is this: We just might get lucky and catch this son-of-a-bitch and ruin him for '76.

Haldeman: That's right.

President Nixon: He doesn't know what he's really getting into. We're going to cover him, and we are not going to take "no" for an answer. He can't say "no." The Kennedys are arrogant as hell with these Secret Service. He says, "Fine," and (Newbrand) should pick the detail, too.


Toward the end of this conversation, Nixon exclaims that Newbrand’s spying “(is) going to be fun,” and Haldeman responds: “Newbrand will just love it.”

Nixon also had a surveillance tip for Haldeman for his spy-to-be: “I want you to tell Newbrand if you will that (unclear) because he's a Catholic, sort of play it, he was for Jack Kennedy all the time. Play up to Kennedy, that "I'm a great admirer of Jack Kennedy." He's a member of the Holy Name Society. He wears a St. Christopher (unclear).” Haldeman laughs heartily at the President’s curious advice.

Despite the enthusiasm of Nixon and Haldeman, Newbrand apparently never produced anything of great value. When this particular round of Nixon’s spying on Kennedy was uncovered in 1997, The Washington Post quoted Butterfield as saying periodic reports on Kennedy's activities were delivered to Haldeman, but that Butterfield did not think any potentially damaging information was ever dug up.

SOURCE:

http://surftofind.com/tedkennedy



While I had read the part of the transcript available years ago, and wrote about what I knew on DU, almost no one I know now still has heard anything about it.

That will change, thanks to you, H20 Man. I learned about the specific, sordid and murderous details thanks to your recommendation for HBO's "Nixon by Nixon."

How was JFK different? Ask Secret Service agent Abraham Bolden, who reported overt racism by his fellow agents and outright hostility toward the "n------loving president," quoting fellow Secret Service agents on the JFK detail.



Abraham Bolden speaks at JFK Lancer.



The story of a man who told the truth:



After 45 Years, a Civil Rights Hero Waits for Justice

Thom Hartmann
June 12, 2009 11:52 AM

A great miscarriage of justice has kept most Americas from learning about a Civil Rights pioneer who worked with President John F. Kennedy. But there is finally a way for citizens to not only right that wrong, but bring closure to the most tragic chapter of American presidential history.

After an outstanding career in law enforcement, Abraham Bolden was appointed by JFK to be the first African American presidential Secret Service agent, where he served with distinction. He was part of the Secret Service effort that prevented JFK's assassination in Chicago, three weeks before Dallas. But Bolden was framed by the Mafia and arrested on the very day he went to Washington to tell the Warren Commission staff about the Chicago attempt against JFK.

Bolden was sentenced to six years in prison, despite glaring problems with his prosecution. His arrest resulted from accusations by two criminals Bolden had sent to prison. In Bolden's first trial, an apparently biased judge told the jury that Bolden was guilty, even before they began their deliberations. Though granted a new trial because of that, the same problematic judge was assigned to oversee Bolden's second trial, which resulted in his conviction. Later, the main witness against Bolden admitted committing perjury against him. A key member of the prosecution even took the fifth when asked about the perjury. Yet Bolden's appeals were denied, and he had to serve hard time in prison, and today is considered a convicted felon.

After the release of four million pages of JFK assassination files in the 1990s, it became clear that Bolden -- and the official secrecy surrounding the Chicago attempt against JFK -- were due to National Security concerns about Cuba, that were unknown to Bolden, the press, Congress, and the public not just in 1963, but for the next four decades.

SNIP...

Abraham Bolden paid a heavy price for trying to tell the truth about events involving the man he was sworn to protect -- JFK -- that became mired in National Security concerns. Bolden still lives in Chicago, and has never given up trying to clear his name.

Will Abraham Bolden live to finally see the justice so long denied to him?

CONTINUED...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thom-hartmann/after-45-years-a-civil-ri_b_213834.html



After the assassination, Bolden traveled to Washington on his own dime and tried to report what he saw to the Warren Commission. For his trouble -- and despite an exemplary record as a Brinks detective, Illinois State Trooper, and Secret Service agent -- Bolden was framed by the government using a paid informant's admitted perjury and spent a long time in prison. The government also drugged him and put him into psychiatric hospitals.

Bolden's only "crime" was telling the truth. The truth is something more people should try. Thank you for telling it about Nixon and President Obama, H20 Man.

PS: Thanks for the kind words about me. While I'm too humble to go there, they mean the World to me.

He has spoken through his actions frazzled Aug 2014 #1
And, thank you, frazzled.. Cha Aug 2014 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #67
+1 sheshe2 Aug 2014 #6
Definitely. H2O Man Aug 2014 #8
So if Obama is for process, cwydro Aug 2014 #10
We're not all the president! n/t elias49 Aug 2014 #12
silly. H2O Man Aug 2014 #15
Because there is no price to be paid for DUers. eom 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #28
Right Obama is DU now...next silly question plz. Rex Aug 2014 #51
Thank you for pointing that out, H2O. Cha Aug 2014 #2
Ditto that. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #4
"Sometimes the quietest person in the room is the smartest one." well said.. Cha Aug 2014 #5
True, that. H2O Man Aug 2014 #16
Thank you H2O Man. sheshe2 Aug 2014 #7
It's an area H2O Man Aug 2014 #17
Oh yes H2O Man. sheshe2 Aug 2014 #22
Thank you. Cha Aug 2014 #32
Thank you H2O Man mcar Aug 2014 #9
Thank you! H2O Man Aug 2014 #18
How about when photojournalists (like the photographer for Getty Images just now) are VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #11
The journalists are H2O Man Aug 2014 #19
So the President doesn't have a role when journalists are being arrested for VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #23
What specifically would H2O Man Aug 2014 #30
Well, I'd expect a president to direct the DoJ to ensure that no journalist is VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #31
"When passions drive, H2O Man Aug 2014 #33
Do you support the arrest and incarceration of journalists plying their trade? Yay VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #36
Do you advocate H2O Man Aug 2014 #38
!!! bluesbassman Aug 2014 #47
By my count, last night, 4 journalists were arrested and held (photographer VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #49
Oy, as they say in Congress: Point of Personal Privilege bigtree Aug 2014 #58
I've sort of lost sight by now of what this whole kerfluffle was about. Seems to me it was about VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #59
I think there's a sometimes a gulf between what he can and should say and the effect of that bigtree Aug 2014 #61
I'd suggest looking H2O Man Aug 2014 #63
I wouldn't disagree with any of that bigtree Aug 2014 #65
Perhaps a good start H2O Man Aug 2014 #62
Sigh. Yawn. No comment necessary. No, really: VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #68
Yes, he is acting presidential. aikoaiko Aug 2014 #13
Indeed, he is. H2O Man Aug 2014 #20
i agree but i think there is more also, he got a lot of negative attacks for just talking JI7 Aug 2014 #14
Absolutely right. H2O Man Aug 2014 #21
Right now he's done all he really can zipplewrath Aug 2014 #24
He's a good lawyer, acting like he knows from the law. riqster Aug 2014 #25
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! malaise Aug 2014 #26
He already made that mistake once bluestateguy Aug 2014 #27
KnR! nt tblue37 Aug 2014 #29
k&r... spanone Aug 2014 #34
I Disagree erpowers Aug 2014 #35
"Some wanted him to act like Robert F. Kennedy after assassination of Martin Luther King Jr." BumRushDaShow Aug 2014 #37
NYS Senator H2O Man Aug 2014 #40
"at the time, seeking the democratic nomination for the presidency." BumRushDaShow Aug 2014 #52
Two outstanding authors, H2O Man Aug 2014 #60
I grew up with those books in the house BumRushDaShow Aug 2014 #71
The issue is not about him speaking out on every case--he can't do that, obviously; Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #57
He can "address it" BumRushDaShow Aug 2014 #70
In fact, H2O Man Aug 2014 #39
recommended bigtree Aug 2014 #42
Right. H2O Man Aug 2014 #44
I've developed zero tolerance for those who post just to pick on my nerves and insult me bigtree Aug 2014 #48
Thank you. I am getting very tired of the outrageous implication woo me with science Aug 2014 #41
Well said! H2O Man Aug 2014 #45
good point bigtree Aug 2014 #43
Right. H2O Man Aug 2014 #46
He sent Holder and the FBI to investigate the FPD. That is all I ask. Rex Aug 2014 #50
Hopefully, the investigations won't stop in Ferguson... TeeYiYi Aug 2014 #53
I agree and I think this was a wake up call to the PTB. Rex Aug 2014 #54
The last time I saw... TeeYiYi Aug 2014 #55
Well nobody can lie anymore about black people being treated equally under the law. Rex Aug 2014 #56
Obama has spoken out before. former9thward Aug 2014 #64
Nixon would know. As veep, he ordered CIA to hire MAFIA to kill Castro. Octafish Aug 2014 #66
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #69
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