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H2O Man

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Tue Jul 22, 2014, 03:55 PM
Jul 2014

I wasn't sure what you meant, thus how to respond. But it did make me think of something that might be kind of related.

I live in rural, upstate New York. Our state is divided in eight divisions, for high school sports. Now, in our area (Section 4), many people take a lot of pride in their high school teams in, for example, football and basketball. Some of those schools have long traditions of talented teams. And that, in and of itself, is a good thing. (Some people might take it a little too serious, in my opinion, but that's fine.)

Generally, the community from "team A" gets along well with those from "team B." People tend to have relatives in the various communities, or friends from the workplace. But from time to time, there are a few who act hostile towards another town's team and/or fans. There are some examples of where long-standing grudges are the tradition! Even to the point where the police are at times called, or show up because they know trouble is likely. Yet, when one local team goes on to the regionals or states at the end of the season, usually a lot of fans from the area go to cheer them on.

Hence, we can see that, even with some good aspects of "community pride," there are still some potential problems. And those problems can raise their heads in very negative ways. Over the decades that I've enjoyed high school sports, I've seen a troubling increase in violence associated with "fans." At times, it might be a parent who expects their child to be a star (or THE star). Or, at a wrestling tournament a few years back, fans and even coaches ended up out in the parking lot for a brawl.

More, both kids and adults will, at times, target an opponent, including well after the sports season. I can think of a half-dozen incidents from our area, over the past decade, that have included serious physical assaults. Now, this isn't "scientific," and I haven't done anything close to a formal study -- but in each of these cases, it involved white people attacking a non-white boy or girl.

That's so wrong, on so many levels. I say that, not only as the uncle of a student athlete who was viciously assaulted by a racist hate group, but as a human being.

"Racism" & Group Psychosis [View all] H2O Man Jul 2014 OP
I've read some reports on some race/sex-related psych research. Igel Jul 2014 #1
Right. H2O Man Jul 2014 #3
It's an interesting discussion el_bryanto Jul 2014 #2
"Tribalism" H2O Man Jul 2014 #4
What about civic pride - or pride in your heritage / ethnicity? el_bryanto Jul 2014 #6
What about them? H2O Man Jul 2014 #8
I think I misread your initial post - so I apologize el_bryanto Jul 2014 #12
No problem. H2O Man Jul 2014 #13
A very interesting read ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #5
Thanks. H2O Man Jul 2014 #16
A big part of tribalism is identity politics. Baitball Blogger Jul 2014 #7
As if looks were the only defining characteristic majorities use to otherize minorities..... Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #9
Another very good point ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #10
I do not agree that this is outside the OP's scope, perhaps it is outside some reader's Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #11
Interesting. H2O Man Jul 2014 #14
I'm editing a post on my thread, thanks for the insight, H2O Man. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #15
What post? H2O Man Jul 2014 #17
Post #8 on this thread, I changed it from racist to tribal-listic. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #18
Okay, thanks. H2O Man Jul 2014 #19
I'm hoping the shooting down of MH17 will have the opposite effect of Ferdinand Duke's Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #20
"Tribalism" describes it well. DirkGently Jul 2014 #21
Thanks. H2O Man Jul 2014 #23
This sounds nice but it seems to me to erase oppression. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #22
It's interesting H2O Man Jul 2014 #24
kick H2O Man Jul 2014 #25
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