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2. The Pathetic Lives of Putin’s American Dupes

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 06:56 AM

Mar 2014

"Today’s Russia dupes are a smaller, more pathetic lot. Above all they are just plain weirder, because they lack a clear ideological motive for their stoogery. Soviet Russia not only commanded a vast propaganda network, but embodied a doctrine with international appeal (and which had originated outside of Russia). Vladimir Putin’s Russia follows no model except Russian nationalism. To the extent it employs a non-nationalist philosophy, its main idea is that gays have weakened Europe. And yet the dupes still come."

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The Pathetic Lives of Putin’s American Dupes [View all] n2doc Mar 2014 OP

When I saw that The Nation magazine had printed his views, Are_grits_groceries Mar 2014 #1

Yes, he does his job as a propagandist very well. I thought he was gone but I guess when propaganda sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #79

The Pathetic Lives of Putin’s American Dupes Cha Mar 2014 #2

Actually, RT does a few good news things Warpy Mar 2014 #107

++ whenever I do watch RT I take it with as many bags of salt as when I used to watch CNN Whisp Mar 2014 #121

but the moment he calls me a Putin apologist, I’m going to say” something that cannot be said jakeXT Mar 2014 #3

Hey, dupes, Pat Buchanan loves him some culture warrin' Putin BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #4

Oh yes.. Putin and Buchanan.. two Cha Mar 2014 #5

It's a full-on conservative "values" crush BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #12

Peoples all over the world, claims Putin, are supporting Russia’s “defense of traditional values” Cha Mar 2014 #62

Oh for the love of Gawd! That's their claim! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #85

That's Pat Buchanan and Putin and Franklin Graham all Whining about Cha Mar 2014 #87

It is a beautiful flag Cha. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #88

NICE! Thank you, she~ Which Reminds me.. Cha Mar 2014 #89

Damn! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #90

:) Cha Mar 2014 #96

Does that make Buchanan yet another Putin dupe Crunchy Frog Mar 2014 #49

Good point. Probably the latter. I had Pat on my radio show a few months ago and it's clear how much stevenleser Mar 2014 #109

Well if Jonathan Chait says so Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #6

How can you call it 'red baiting' when Russia is not Communist? That's one Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #10

No, it's quite the opposite. I think we on DU have settled on a definition of Fascism as the merger stevenleser Mar 2014 #25

Because it is capitalist, but Chait is applying Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #34

Then why do you offer it in defense of those who are oligarchs? Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #44

Huh? Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #45

Notice I told you directly 'I don't understand it'. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #52

Well, I'm not one of those people. Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #56

Yep. This is the assbeating response I was looking for. intersectionality Mar 2014 #97

Privatize everything! Attack everyone! Notice how these assholes all line up the same Catherina Mar 2014 #17

I don't know why Chait gets published in liberal journals. Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #35

He carries water for the people who invest in both parties Catherina Mar 2014 #38

Chait has had it out for teacher's unions forever. Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #40

Chait has the issue of pretending to be superior to everyone. joshcryer Mar 2014 #94

I don't need RT to tell me the Crimea belongs to Russia. It just does. reformist2 Mar 2014 #7

K^R Cha Mar 2014 #8

Vague and sentimental claptrap. Vacuuities, stereotypes, and projection all over the top. bemildred Mar 2014 #9

Like his piece here: "Jonathan Chait: A McCain Presidency Wouldn't Be So Bad" Catherina Mar 2014 #19

He reminds me of Jonah Goldberg. bemildred Mar 2014 #22

Excellent comparison. Catherina Mar 2014 #29

Faith based politics. Like this guy is talking about here: bemildred Mar 2014 #32

+1 n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #39

Are You Now or Have You Ever Been a Russia Dupe? jsr Mar 2014 #11

Or a Putin Apoligist?...Putin lover? zeemike Mar 2014 #14

rt.com is already banned in Latest Breaking News, since it is not a legitimate news operation. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #20

Excellent. Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2014 #28

Is Fox News a legitimate news source? zeemike Mar 2014 #33

Skinner and the hosts of LBN are the ones who made the correct decision geek tragedy Mar 2014 #63

"it's more respectable than rt" zeemike Mar 2014 #67

it should. there is nothing less credible than a propaganda site owned and operated geek tragedy Mar 2014 #70

Conservatives and authoritarians are naturally attractd to the "approved" News... bvar22 Mar 2014 #101

See BNW's #10 above nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #26

They're pathetic. Their song never changes. Catherina Mar 2014 #30

The Senator Joe McCarthy ERA IS BACK! Loyalty Tests...Congressional Hearings KoKo Mar 2014 #50

"I am not going to answer any questions as to my association, my philosophical or religious beliefs Catherina Mar 2014 #55

Great Snip....Honor of Seeger! KoKo Mar 2014 #58

He's not a "red commie". He's a right wing fascist thug functioning_cog Mar 2014 #51

That's pretty direct, but it is spot on. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #53

Stand up Proud for Putin .. don't be shy. He has "traditional values". Cha Mar 2014 #64

intellectual dishonesty G_j Mar 2014 #74

Yes, Putin is dishonest. Cha Mar 2014 #77

The USSR wasn't Socialist! africanadian Mar 2014 #13

Kick & highly recommended! William769 Mar 2014 #15

Jonathan Chait lol. The Neoliberal asshole supreme spreading School of Chicago neocon bullshit Catherina Mar 2014 #16

^ This should be an OP. jsr Mar 2014 #18

Exposing Chait or how the neolib water carriers are finally showing their true colors? Catherina Mar 2014 #24

"he was even attacking Kerry" ProSense Mar 2014 #23

"John McCain for President"! Catherina Mar 2014 #27

You mean, ProSense Mar 2014 #31

I mean what I said my dear professional friend and none of your attempts Catherina Mar 2014 #36

LOL! ProSense Mar 2014 #41

^ Pro can have the last word ^ Catherina Mar 2014 #42

Woo said it best. bvar22 Mar 2014 #102

Funny that someone who pimps Russian state propaganda and carries water for a foreign tyrant geek tragedy Mar 2014 #84

Holy shit I was sitting here thinking the EXACT same thing Number23 Mar 2014 #91

Indeed...being pro-Obama is somehow shameful, but being pro-Putin is on the purity meter. msanthrope Mar 2014 #98

Oh my God... the Mayor of Face Palm Springs Number23 Mar 2014 #111

Had quinoa been the end of it, we never would have had this gem..... msanthrope Mar 2014 #112

or pro-Fox "News" reddread Mar 2014 #114

Rt.com fans same as foxnation.com crowd geek tragedy Mar 2014 #115

seems like a lot of beliefs are built around name calling and derision reddread Mar 2014 #116

Hahahaha! You crack me up functioning_cog Mar 2014 #48

Telling lies about nasty people is easy. sibelian Mar 2014 #21

K&R The dupes aren't going to like this! FSogol Mar 2014 #37

Obviously not... Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #43

It's amazing, isn't it? We have to sit here day after day and listen to these idiots shit all over Number23 Mar 2014 #92

Dupe Group in Full On Deflective Mode.. Cha Mar 2014 #65

The generation brainwashed with duck and cover drills... Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #46

Looks like this is upsetting all the right people functioning_cog Mar 2014 #47

+1...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #61

Unfortunately, some of the loudest and dumbest dupes are hanging around here. MADem Mar 2014 #54

Developing, the funniest meme ever: ProSense Mar 2014 #57

Who's keeping them in the dark and feeding them Cha Mar 2014 #66

Well, that's because he's blaaaaaahhhhhhh....to quote Rick Santorum!!! MADem Mar 2014 #71

Yeah, I saw the way Stephen Cohen was rationalizing RT.. Cha Mar 2014 #69

...and The Master Baiters RISE again!!! bvar22 Mar 2014 #59

"If you're not FOR the WAR" ProSense Mar 2014 #68

He can try. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #72

Well, Putin's war, apparently, is GOOD. Anyone objecting to Putin's war...not so much? nt MADem Mar 2014 #75

Bifurcated arguments are easily made, because there's no complexity associated with them. MADem Mar 2014 #73

"Now run along and think harder." Number23 Mar 2014 #93

Bravo!!!!!nt sadoldgirl Mar 2014 #80

You mad, bro? functioning_cog Mar 2014 #81

Still waiting for you to criticize Putin with 1/100th the vehemence with which you geek tragedy Mar 2014 #83

putin's war, to be specific nt arely staircase Mar 2014 #100

Huge K&R!!... SidDithers Mar 2014 #60

I've yet to find any "good guys" in this dispute. RandySF Mar 2014 #76

Jonathan Chait, I wondered what had happened to that right wing former supporter of everything Bush. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #78

You understand that what you wrote doesn't refute anything he just said, right? stevenleser Mar 2014 #104

No, I understand that most of what he says is, as always, not credible. He's a tool and always was. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #106

You still haven't refuted anything he just said. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #108

You haven't explained why the man who hates the 'left' who never has had anything relevant to say, sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #110

The GOP got caught LOVING on some Putin. Rex Mar 2014 #118

Well, they loved him the way they loved Saddam. They thought Saddam was 'more of a leader' than sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #120

Should offer a kit on the Internet. He's warning not against all apologists, just Putin's? jtuck004 Mar 2014 #82

Kicked and Recommending! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #86

Leftists supporting a fascist sort of belies reason. joshcryer Mar 2014 #95

And I can completely appreciate that. Chait is not a favorite of mine. But he is right here. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #105

k&r nt arely staircase Mar 2014 #99

Coming soon, Left People Got No Reason to Live Union Scribe Mar 2014 #103

Kick Cha Mar 2014 #113

Funny, all the love I see going toward Putin is from the GOP. Rex Mar 2014 #117

The same Iraq War-loving Jonathan Chait? brentspeak Mar 2014 #119

.. Cha Mar 2014 #122

Time to Kick this Again. Cha Mar 2014 #123

K & R. Still true 10 months later uhnope Jan 2015 #124