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Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
178. Want to win this election and appoint more liberal SC judges and protect womens rights?
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 05:21 PM
Aug 2013

Then vote Hillary! We'll lose the election to Christy or Cruz or Rubio or even Jeb Bush if we don't back Hillary. Hillary has far and above better credentials for president. The ReThugs and Independents take one look of her lack of foreign policy experience and we'll never get one of their votes. Besides, we NEED Elizabeth in the senate tearing into Wall Street Bankers with vengeance. Also, if she leaves the Senate a ReThug could take that seat again. Horrors!

Hopefully Hillary has this election in a bag...don't ruin it!

I refuse to vote for any of them this November jberryhill Aug 2013 #1
It azmesa207 Aug 2013 #166
Actually ... Koios Aug 2013 #179
An equivocation worthy of the Jesuits or the witches in MacBeth. Everyone at the time of the vote HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #197
Good one! QuestForSense Aug 2013 #255
*I* have blinders on? jberryhill Aug 2013 #200
Just gonna say that... PCIntern Aug 2013 #206
Pol Pot didn't kill as many people as Stalin. nt awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #281
Pretty hard to find any Dem president who hasn't launched a war. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #177
Even harder to find one running for president this November jberryhill Aug 2013 #198
Grover Cleveland Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #238
So is that "it's ok because they all do it" argument? Supporting Bush's Iraq war is rhett o rick Aug 2013 #274
Did you vote for Kerry? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #2
Not in the primary MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #13
Then you voted for someone who voted for the war. You don't like Hillary fine but don't pretend you hrmjustin Aug 2013 #16
I had a choice between Kerry and Bush. MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #19
What you did. I understand you did not like the war. I lost a cousin in the war but we have other hrmjustin Aug 2013 #22
On the other hand, you did like the war? Enthusiast Aug 2013 #32
No I marched against the war before it started. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #94
I marched too. But I actually meant it. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #228
As did I thank you very much! hrmjustin Aug 2013 #229
But you will support Ms Clinton that we hoped would save us from the idiots. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #252
I will never vote for anyone that kissed George Bush's feet. AlbertCat Aug 2013 #258
Think what you feel is right. I am voting for her. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #264
And the middle class will die. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #271
I doubt that. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #273
The DLC sides with the 1%. Who do you side with? nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #288
Yeah, millions of dead, wounded, and displaced, destabilizing the world's most volatile Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #37
That war is over and Hillary can be a great president. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #95
The war is over? Including paying for it? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #103
No not paying for it. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #107
The war is over? Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #106
Alerted. cliffordu Aug 2013 #143
see something, say something.. frylock Aug 2013 #144
That's kool. Right alert, wrong Jury. cliffordu Aug 2013 #148
wrong alert, right jury frylock Aug 2013 #149
Well. My bad. cliffordu Aug 2013 #151
x2 AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #172
+10 RC Aug 2013 #195
The war is not over. zeemike Aug 2013 #139
This is so true & Scary Rockyj Aug 2013 #189
Hillary can be a great president. tiredtoo Aug 2013 #159
I like her. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #180
Great comeback! RC Aug 2013 #196
The War is Over??!!! bvar22 Aug 2013 #163
I wish they would as well. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #176
The the real WAR is not really over, bvar22 Aug 2013 #188
Well we will always have this war on terror for a another decade or two. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #190
And the MIC was HOPING to hear you say that. bvar22 Aug 2013 #243
A whole bunch of special forces ceonupe Aug 2013 #210
So easy to forgive? There are others that dont carry the responsibility of the death rhett o rick Aug 2013 #290
I have always liked her. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #293
Dont forget empowering Iran to be the power they are today 7962 Aug 2013 #133
You're right, and then some. To make a complete list would take far more time than I'm Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #138
We never needed or wanted Iraqi oil. What we wanted was (to paraphrase Norman Mailer) a HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #199
On that last point i would disagree. But the 1st is intriguing. 7962 Aug 2013 #224
I don't LittleBlue Aug 2013 #43
I voted for Kerry and he voted for the war. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #96
yes, we have other issues. such as de-funding the MIC, *not* attacking Iran or Syria or magical thyme Aug 2013 #62
That is your right. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #97
Good for you! You tell 'em! And may I ask how the hell Auntie Bush Aug 2013 #223
We aren't even in an election BainsBane Aug 2013 #280
Thread should have ended right here. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #51
That's Not How It Works... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #57
Can you imagine ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #58
Or... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #60
Agree ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #63
Lesterland. truebluegreen Aug 2013 #85
...but he has a "Warren 2016" logo on his Sig line... brooklynite Aug 2013 #75
Demand?? KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #77
You guys should stop being so mean to Manny Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #153
She did write a NY Times best seller on how the middle class is screwed MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #162
A couple of points- Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #78
I respect your view. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author pipoman Aug 2013 #83
Kerry voted for IWR and sided with weapon inspectors that military force was not needed blm Aug 2013 #129
If you don't want to support her that is your choice. I am supporting her. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #130
Didn't say I wasn't voting for her. I just added details to your assertion. blm Aug 2013 #131
Fair point. I thought she came out against the war in the end. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #132
And you turn your back on the tens of thousands of children that were murdered. Ms. Clinton rhett o rick Aug 2013 #249
Yeah Ok because I support Hillary I turn my back on Tens of Thousands of Kids. Sure! hrmjustin Aug 2013 #260
General Election. NOT the primary. eom progressoid Aug 2013 #112
Yes I realize that now. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #113
Do you accept the deaths of the Iraqis? Are you willing to forgive those responsible? nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #250
The Iraq war was a tragedy. I know because I lost my cousin in it. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #262
Were you on this site when that vote was taken? Samantha Aug 2013 #3
I was not. MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #12
A lot of protests, a lot of activism and in the end Generic Other Aug 2013 #42
Mislead by smoke and mirrors--- especially by that serial liar Colin Powell warrant46 Aug 2013 #64
Yes...and signing the Move On.org petition to the UN...delivered to them.. KoKo Aug 2013 #81
Like fighting in a hundred year war Generic Other Aug 2013 #147
To label it controversial is putting it mildly Samantha Aug 2013 #92
Exactly. Dems who voted with Bush for the Iraq war weren't voting that way Nay Aug 2013 #122
A well deserved albatross around the neck for them all. Brewinblue Aug 2013 #128
I'm no Obamabot or apologist, but I would remind you that Obama spoke out publicly HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #208
Best short explication I've read here about Dems and Iraq. Seems folks have forgotten HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #205
You said it very well. The Dems that voted to authorize Bush betrayed us. The deaths of tens of rhett o rick Aug 2013 #275
Exactly Samantha Aug 2013 #277
What you say all and this: KoKo Aug 2013 #187
You and I often are on the very same page Samantha Aug 2013 #279
While many of these links are dead, they illustrate the level of concern!!! Generic Other Aug 2013 #150
Wow..Thanks for all those links from "Way Back!" KoKo Aug 2013 #193
First - Why on Earth should we nominate a candidate who voted for war with Iraq? limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #4
Good point. OP updated. MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #5
If you want to go to war with Iran, you have to do some preparation work - that's why. leveymg Aug 2013 #56
Is Our Democratic Party declaring "Bankruptcy" We Only have the Clintons? KoKo Aug 2013 #237
Don't plan on it. joshcryer Aug 2013 #6
She was misled! ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #7
lol ctsnowman Aug 2013 #116
And it's not as if their was any reason to doubt the DULY ELECTED POTUS JAbuchan08 Aug 2013 #185
I hope not to. immoderate Aug 2013 #8
K&R. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #9
When you get right down to it... ohheckyeah Aug 2013 #10
Why would we trust any Republican or Third-Way Democrat, Enthusiast Aug 2013 #33
No, I meant exactly what I said. ohheckyeah Aug 2013 #34
Good point.........nt Enthusiast Aug 2013 #41
That was the reason I never supported any of them. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #11
didn't you support Hillary Clinton in the 2008 Primary ? JI7 Aug 2013 #14
NO! MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #15
didn't you support her over Obama ? JI7 Aug 2013 #17
NO! MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #18
We shouldn't PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #20
Iraq is so yesterday leftstreet Aug 2013 #21
Thankfully, it paid for itself. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #101
Why one earth must we talk incessantly about a Presidential election BainsBane Aug 2013 #23
I think it's because those who will run in the primaries are going to have to get started Nay Aug 2013 #67
Because (1) the ones who voted for the Iraq war will be able to peel off more Republican votes with AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #24
Good point! A vote for Hillary is a vote for the stutus quo! Enthusiast Aug 2013 #35
Or maybe "stultus quo"... truebluegreen Aug 2013 #86
People make mistakes, apologize and are forgiven. Nye Bevan Aug 2013 #25
This is what an Iraq war mea culpa looks like.. Fumesucker Aug 2013 #53
What apology? Yes, people can change but there is no reason to just pretend they did and move on. TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #54
Where I come from, we call Hillary's attitude 'arrogance' and we don't like it - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #214
Everyone reading this website alone in 2002 and 3 knew the Iraq War was unjustified burnodo Aug 2013 #59
Manny I'm with you summer-hazz Aug 2013 #26
Just click on the link at the bottom of my sig... MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #161
''Why would we trust one of these people with our future?'' DeSwiss Aug 2013 #27
You win! nt Enthusiast Aug 2013 #39
I wish I could recommend YOUR post. robertpaulsen Aug 2013 #115
Merci.... DeSwiss Aug 2013 #213
Jacque Fresco for President. I don't care if he's 97. robertpaulsen Aug 2013 #295
It's happening now. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #297
Keep in mind many who voted for the authorization didn't think Bush would USE IT.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #28
Its people like this Dwayne Hicks Aug 2013 #29
So you are encouraging people not to vote Democratic? intaglio Aug 2013 #30
It's pretty obvious Manny is talking about the primaries nxylas Aug 2013 #40
Come on, Manny. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #31
We shouldn't, but some people think it's her turn now. JVS Aug 2013 #36
Agreed. I won't be voting for her LittleBlue Aug 2013 #38
Many were fooled by Bush's lies bluedeathray Aug 2013 #44
But there was NO WAY they could have been fooled, unless they were unbelievably stupid. Nay Aug 2013 #125
Or working their own agenda. bluedeathray Aug 2013 #140
I don't like that vote, either, Manny. In fact, it's a big check in the negative column. Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #45
So what it was 10 yrs ago? None of them, to my knowledge, has come out and repented in any real Nay Aug 2013 #127
She's not my top pick. Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #203
What needs to be gone over...is what has changed since that vote? KoKo Aug 2013 #212
Some did more than just vote for the war. Motown_Johnny Aug 2013 #46
There was NOTHING she said that was correct. Nothing! RC Aug 2013 #241
We shouldn't. i.e. We should NOT. Smarmie Doofus Aug 2013 #47
Fair question. NCTraveler Aug 2013 #48
Just say no to Hillary. ProSense Aug 2013 #49
Impotent rage is all the rage. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #55
Since the DSCC is campaigning for her... MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #66
Have at it. I'm still not convinced Hillary is going to run. ProSense Aug 2013 #71
DSCC is not campaigning for her... brooklynite Aug 2013 #80
Want to win? Run Elizabeth. Want to lose? Run Hillary and we lose even if she wins. Scuba Aug 2013 #50
Hillary will move the Dem party even more to the right. L0oniX Aug 2013 #104
Exactly. Scuba Aug 2013 #105
Have to agree and know it's not popular to say that here. n/t KoKo Aug 2013 #216
Want to win this election and appoint more liberal SC judges and protect womens rights? Auntie Bush Aug 2013 #178
You're right, she'll never get votes from the ReThugs and traditional independents... Scuba Aug 2013 #184
I'm for protecting the RIGHTS of ALL OF US...not Fragmentation of One Group KoKo Aug 2013 #217
. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #276
Thank you, Manny! K&R Carolina Aug 2013 #52
Good Question fredamae Aug 2013 #61
Now Manny, don't stress. Autumn Aug 2013 #65
So nominate someone who didn't... SidDithers Aug 2013 #68
Nominating candidates is virtually impossible for anyone who is not filthy rich, and Zorra Aug 2013 #74
Right...and Warren ran a penniless, shoestring campaign for Senator brooklynite Aug 2013 #76
Running for Senator in the GE in a liberal state, and trying to get nominated for POTUS, Zorra Aug 2013 #87
That would be me... brooklynite Aug 2013 #93
Electing a candidate many won't vote for is a good trick no matter how bad the Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #89
Because in November 2016 it will be either her or Jeb or christie Doctor_J Aug 2013 #69
I'm more worried about Iran than Iraq at this point, though Clinton's horrid and cynical judgment geek tragedy Aug 2013 #70
They just want the (D) Win Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #72
Good, another anti-Hillary thread... brooklynite Aug 2013 #73
Political Parties always go though a process of selecting candidates, to oppose a Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #91
Nah ...there's plenty of dinos who want to see the Dem party keep moving to the right. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #100
Yeah, doesn't it make you feel all warm and tingly on the inside? Beacool Aug 2013 #110
i won`t vote for hillary in the primary madrchsod Aug 2013 #79
How I wish Howard Dean had a chance mainer Aug 2013 #82
He DID have a chance... brooklynite Aug 2013 #135
And the corporate media found a way to overmodulate his mike to make him "crazy"... cascadiance Aug 2013 #146
Sorry...he had lost Iowa and was losing New Hampshire before that happened. brooklynite Aug 2013 #169
As this CBS article notes, the coverage of his speech didn't do him any favors... cascadiance Aug 2013 #183
Why didn't people vote for him? Because he told the truth. mainer Aug 2013 #231
WE won't nominate anyone. Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #84
"Viola"? don't you mean Videla? (well, Isabel Perón) nt MisterP Aug 2013 #114
Right...just like in 2008 brooklynite Aug 2013 #134
2008 was an exception. Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #171
Corrupt, conned, craven? Whichever, it disqualifies you for president IMHO on point Aug 2013 #88
All she needs is some cowboy boots and a smirk. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #90
Why vote for any Dem that wil move the party center right ...right ...and more right? L0oniX Aug 2013 #99
Very true. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #102
+1 heaven05 Aug 2013 #108
Yawn.......another typical day at DU. Beacool Aug 2013 #109
Speaking up to preempt the "Hillary is inevitable" meme is NOT the same thing as "hating" her cascadiance Aug 2013 #136
Hillary is the favorite for 2016 because that's what polls show. The media reporting that fact does Metric System Aug 2013 #170
They also were projecting Hillary as a favorite for 2008 early on... cascadiance Aug 2013 #175
the truth is, georgee used political blackmail TO GET THAT VOTE. pansypoo53219 Aug 2013 #111
I'll only vote for a nonmilitant. We don't need an NSA, we just need to stop the drone strikes. Gregorian Aug 2013 #117
B I G K&R!!! avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #118
Exactly! ctsnowman Aug 2013 #119
Because we want to win? Bake Aug 2013 #120
With current state of the Republican Party I think that any credible Democratic candidate would win. totodeinhere Aug 2013 #123
With the current state of the Republican Party, are you willing to take the chance? brooklynite Aug 2013 #137
What you said. Bake Aug 2013 #141
Hillary had those same "advantages" over Obama in 2008. Warren in my book has academic advantage cascadiance Aug 2013 #145
Can You Put That On A Bumper Sticker... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #157
Her introducing legislation that reflects her knowledge and experience can be "bumper stickered" cascadiance Aug 2013 #165
The Endless Campaign Season... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #168
This far out we can't even be sure we know who has the best chance. totodeinhere Aug 2013 #182
She didn't vote for Bush to go to war with Iraq. pnwmom Aug 2013 #121
Yes, she did. Martin Eden Aug 2013 #124
I will never forgive Daschle or Gebhardt or any of the other realpolitikers who voted for this HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #220
That cowardly Carolina Aug 2013 #246
Yet another pro-Hillary thread. Oh, wait...eom Metric System Aug 2013 #126
LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!! cliffordu Aug 2013 #142
well Cliffordu hundreds of politicians, thousands of staffers and large masses of ernest but grantcart Aug 2013 #155
Yeppers. Yep. cliffordu Aug 2013 #160
Ah Yep Peacetrain Aug 2013 #156
Yep. I'm all warm and runny inside cliffordu Aug 2013 #207
Do you mean the Freepers? Beacool Aug 2013 #244
Answer: Because we would like a Democratic President Billy Pilgrim Aug 2013 #152
I am opposed to the US participating in any optional war and I've said so since Vietnam...but... Sancho Aug 2013 #154
And if comes down to Hillary or Christie, will you sit it out and let him get elected by default DainBramaged Aug 2013 #158
Nader did not lose the election for Gore in 2000 MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #164
True, but there are those with an agenda who think that the truth is greatly overrated. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #173
Yes he did, if you claim otherwise you're simply a Nader enabler DainBramaged Aug 2013 #209
Bush got 13% of Florida's registered Democratic votes MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #225
That's one less vote for Hillary, and plus one for the Republican candidate. Billy Pilgrim Aug 2013 #239
Give it up, Manny burnodo Aug 2013 #240
We shouldn't. NT quakerboy Aug 2013 #167
you won't like whoever it is arely staircase Aug 2013 #174
Hear hear DainBramaged Aug 2013 #211
Indeed! The Shtick Was Transparent Ages Ago Skraxx Aug 2013 #219
The vote was not for the war. Bush started the war ... Koios Aug 2013 #181
Manny, I think you asked honestly. You want an answer that makes sense. DevonRex Aug 2013 #186
He Didn't Ask Honestly Skraxx Aug 2013 #218
Yeah. DevonRex Aug 2013 #227
There is one more factor, which state did she represent? New York. Beacool Aug 2013 #245
Yes. New Senator from New York. With constituents DevonRex Aug 2013 #251
Most elected Democrats were able to vote against war MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #248
No others were married to former presidents who supported the WMD DevonRex Aug 2013 #261
So she should still maintain that she voted correctly? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #267
If she wishes to she can. DevonRex Aug 2013 #272
because we are an Empire Enrique Aug 2013 #191
Hopefully having the balls to be willing to slaughter several hundred thousand people without indepat Aug 2013 #192
And who voted with W more than a lot of Republicans. Great question, Manny! marble falls Aug 2013 #194
Why on earth should we nominate a presidential candidate who would break many of his promises.... YoungDemCA Aug 2013 #201
Manny, your OPs tend to be very contentious but I must say you have a way of HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #202
The Iraq war will be old news by 2016 Renew Deal Aug 2013 #204
Not That Your Posts Have Any Effect Whatsoever on the Real World Skraxx Aug 2013 #215
I just want Democrats who embrace traditional Democratic values MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #234
"traditional Democratic values" as defined by Manny Skraxx Aug 2013 #289
I think most of us can agree that cutting Social Security is not a traditional Democratic value MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #294
I want Elizabeth Warren to run. n/t Pryderi Aug 2013 #221
What does it mean if he/she voted for the Iraq War? kentuck Aug 2013 #222
It means they made a HUGE mistake. We don't need more. Like war sith Syria, Iran, Korea, Texas grahamhgreen Aug 2013 #226
It means he/she was wrong on a fundamental issue mainer Aug 2013 #233
thank you Sir. Chaco Dundee Aug 2013 #230
Because it's evident her work as SOS shined a new light for her to see the folly of that vote. n/t dsharp88 Aug 2013 #232
Because almost everybody did. shenmue Aug 2013 #235
Most elected Democrats voted against war. MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #236
I totally agree yellowwoodII Aug 2013 #242
Welcome to DU Carolina Aug 2013 #254
tigerram Tigerram Aug 2013 #247
Dunno, elleng Aug 2013 #253
Many didn't fail... Carolina Aug 2013 #256
Right, Carolina. Thanks. elleng Aug 2013 #257
yes! Carolina Aug 2013 #259
Maybe we knew eachother!!! elleng Aug 2013 #263
so sorry, elleng Carolina Aug 2013 #291
I am not voting for Hillary in Primary or the Main Elections School Teacher Aug 2013 #265
Did you vote for Kerry? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #266
Welcome to DU Carolina Aug 2013 #292
And you will not be alone my friend. 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #296
I voted for Kerry but Never Again! School Teacher Aug 2013 #268
Ok fair enough! hrmjustin Aug 2013 #269
This message was self-deleted by its author cynatnite Aug 2013 #270
Look Manny I am sorry to you and anyone else in this Op and Thread that I may have been unfriendly hrmjustin Aug 2013 #278
because she is the best woman Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #282
Warren/Sanders or Sanders/Warren are just two of the possible options for me...just sayin'. May be silvershadow Aug 2013 #283
I love Sanders but he is not a democrat, can we nominate a non-democrat? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #284
Not sure how that would/could work...maybe he would consider registering? Anyhow, that would silvershadow Aug 2013 #285
I am a Hillary fan but I love them as well and would vote for them if they were the nominee. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #286
If she's announces she's running, it will be her. Period. The others would have to wait. Not sure silvershadow Aug 2013 #287
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