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In reply to the discussion: Video-Amina: Topless Tunisian Protester Tells Femen She Was Beaten,Kidnapped & Drugged By Her Family [View all]RainDog
(28,784 posts)That atheism is a belief system. People can be atheist and believe fairies create circles on the forests, etc. etc. There is no dogma and no belief system to atheism other than a statement that someone does not think a god or gods exist. No one makes a profession of belief to an organization and no one is required to note if a person decides, on one way that they don't know if some god in whatever abstraction might exist or whether that abstraction is not something that makes sense to them. Someone can be an atheist and reject science. Someone can be an atheist and be ethical or not, because atheism does not have a set of ethical principles - it is merely a statement about whether or not supernatural agency is part of reality according to that person's understanding.
What the person here has responded to is codified religions and rejects all of them.
Theists are partial atheists - they don't believe other descriptions of god are deities, or truth, while they believe their own description is reality.
You, instead, focus on Islam and say this person's objection to Islam is bigotry. You have made this claim against others, as well. You think you have to label them as bigots if they reject belief systems. You think you have the need to school them but you don't -because what you object to is someone stating an opinion about belief. Yet, you say you don't care. This makes no sense since you spend so much time here calling others bigots based upon your assumptions about them.
I can't and don't speak for this person, but I can read and what has been said is that the texts that create the dogma of variations of religious beliefs demonstrate the lack of wisdom in those beliefs - by quoting from those beliefs' own texts to indicate how limited the beliefs are, how bounded by human error and historical era those beliefs are - which would, for anyone who would look at this outside of the culture of this or that belief, indicate the lack of greater wisdom, otherworldly understanding, etc. - iow, the texts of the religions demonstrate the falsity of the claims of some sort of revealed knowledge.
...Unless someone accepts that human progress is against the workings of the god that was created at the time the texts were created - which is why someone said fundamentalists have more of an argument for holding a belief. Yet even those believers pick and choose which parts of a regressive religious system they want to follow and which may be discarded. Funny how fundamentalism always chooses to maintain those beliefs that discriminate against "others" while allowing themselves to discard beliefs that contribute to their own ease or happiness or convenience.
But this truth about beliefs would indicate the beliefs are historical relics, not wisdom from some omnipotent mind, because an omnipotent mind would not, oh so conveniently, mimic the misogyny or xenophobia, etc. etc. of those times in which they were constructed, would not be entirely false regarding things that are now considered givens about the nature of the world in which we live - unless the sciences are false - and, in regard to the way in which humans exist in this world - the sciences are what make the world understandable in ways that create human progress by creating a frame that does not require "revealed truth" as the standard for one person's treatment of another. But science isn't atheism or a belief system. It is a way of examining the physical world and verifying whether or not statements made about it correlate to observed reality.
If you don't care what people think or believe about god, you wouldn't be on this board constantly accusing people of bigotry.
So, while you may claim that's your position, your actions indicate that you think you should serve as hall monitor to allow the continuation of religious superstition without comment from others.
This board does not have a policy that right wing thought and beliefs are protected simply because many people hold on to those beliefs.
You try to frame this as bigotry as a way to censor others.