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hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
45. actually they do
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 03:57 PM
Apr 2013

because the first thing Krugman took Bush to task for was, (as I said in my FIRST post in this subthread before, for some reason, another argument got started over whether Bush was a bigger liar than Nixon or LBJ)

"Krugman writes "Bush never admitted that his tax cuts did, in fact, favor the wealthy."

I don't disagree with that, because I spent years hammering at Bush for it, from before he was elected.

BUT

On January 3rd Obama signed a bill making 85% of the Bush tax cuts permanent, a bill called ATRA

Have either Krugman OR Obama ever admitted that ATRA, does, in fact, favor the wealthy? "

Thus Krugman is taking Bush to task for a lie, that Krugman himself has told, and that Obama has told.

And you happily ignore that part of my post to get into an argument that I, personally, find somewhat irrelevant - whether Bush is a bigger liar than Nixon or Reagan. And you find it odd that Bush's supporters make excuses for, or ignore, Bush's lies. Yet you seem, as an Obama and Krugman supporter to be right HERE ignoring Obama and Krugman's lies.

Krugman: The Great Degrader [View all] ProSense Apr 2013 OP
K&R -- and somebody please tell President Obama MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #1
What I Hate liberalmike27 Apr 2013 #39
This needs to be shouted: raccoon Apr 2013 #42
Thank you for posting this! jazzimov Apr 2013 #2
Historian's take: Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #3
OOoooooooooooooo! BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2013 #35
Krugman sees clearly. hay rick Apr 2013 #4
Yep, linguistics...the language and words we use... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2013 #22
Worst ever. Agreed. We now live in a plutocracy. Faygo Kid Apr 2013 #5
So true fasttense Apr 2013 #33
I do not think bush was "arguably the worst ever" Skittles Apr 2013 #6
I struggle with that lakercub Apr 2013 #47
I have to give bush the edge because Skittles Apr 2013 #49
No doubt W was the worst ever, but no more of the "we may never recover" melodrama, please. reformist2 Apr 2013 #7
No question Bush was dishonest, Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2013 #8
No, there is no question. Bush was the worse and yes, we may never recover. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #10
You better go read up on Herbert Hoover. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #36
I have. Bush is by far worse. He destroyed our inherent political system. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #37
The least you can say about HH is that he had good intentions. eppur_se_muova Apr 2013 #43
Ten years secondvariety Apr 2013 #9
I'm thinking of sharing these words without mention who said them. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2013 #11
That's actually the Rove legacy... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #12
and the "ranch" was quietly sold right after the election... CTyankee Apr 2013 #13
The town of "Crawford" was a fraud too. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #19
"unprecedented level of systematic dishonesty " zeemike Apr 2013 #14
he's a tad behind the curve stupidicus Apr 2013 #15
bush was the worst and the only one who would have beaten his Cha Apr 2013 #16
They can't handle this truth... kentuck Apr 2013 #17
My response to Paul Krugman, in regard to his distaste for G.W. Bush Cliff Arnebeck Apr 2013 #18
With all due respect, ProSense Apr 2013 #20
The absurdity of the control we allowed Karl Rove to gain over our nation Cliff Arnebeck Apr 2013 #32
You know, ProSense Apr 2013 #34
Neither George W. Bush nor Karl Rove Individually Wrecked the Havoc. Justina For Justice Apr 2013 #40
A cabal of predatory monopoly capitalists as our problem Cliff Arnebeck May 2013 #56
Rove was bad, sure. So was bush. They both lied to the public. fishwax Apr 2013 #24
K&R Electric Monk Apr 2013 #21
well I have a bone to pick with my favorite hammer hfojvt Apr 2013 #23
Whenever ProSense Apr 2013 #25
you have always been adept hfojvt Apr 2013 #29
Also, I have to ask: ProSense Apr 2013 #26
Gulf of Tonkin? hfojvt Apr 2013 #27
You went ProSense Apr 2013 #28
I do object hfojvt Apr 2013 #30
First, ProSense Apr 2013 #31
To call what Clinton said a blatant lie is the same as saying evolution is "only a theory" Bandit Apr 2013 #54
and exactly when was it the lies regarding Tonkin were exposed stupidicus Apr 2013 #38
and yet you don't want to say anything hfojvt Apr 2013 #41
right stupidicus Apr 2013 #44
actually they do hfojvt Apr 2013 #45
oh good grief -- are you math challenged? stupidicus Apr 2013 #52
you are approving and supporting a lie right here hfojvt Apr 2013 #53
learn the meaning of the word "implied" stupidicus Apr 2013 #55
George AWOL Bush & the Cabal O'Corrupt Republican Cronies lied us into war Berlum Apr 2013 #46
I disagree a little bit.... AlbertCat Apr 2013 #48
. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #50
Too dumb to even be in the running. Cheney and Rove ran the show. TheMadMonk Apr 2013 #51
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