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liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
39. What I Hate
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 12:41 PM
Apr 2013

About this and generally looking at the Bush administration as some sort of point of demarcation where it all went to sheit, is that in truth I think we all know the worst things happened way back during Reagan, perhaps some during Nixon, and even McCarthyism and its failure represented a shift in thinking, a group beginning to look at gains by lower-level working Americans as Communist.

Certainly if we're going to blame anyone, let's go with Reagan. I think a lot of people wanted to blame Bush because they didn't want to wrap Clinton into that period. But we all know he went along with Welfare "reform." It's always a bad thing, when Republicans use the word "reform," because they'll come as close to truncating whatever goes with the word as possible, it essentially means "cut."

Clinton also favored us with banking "reform," (again) and signed it into law. I think the congress could have and did have enough votes to override his veto, but he should have made some noise, pounded the bully-pulpit with that one. Clinton also kept ushering in the trade-agreements. Yep, remember how when GHW Bush tried to get them passed, and we said NOOOOOO, but when Clinton was elected, all of the "democrats can do no wrong," crowd jumped on board and said "OK, if Billy C. says it, it must be OK. Here we are now, down the line, 35 million jobs away, debt growing for not collecting the taxes those good jobs once paid, path to the American Dream now overgrown and nearly impassable for a lot of folks who used to try to work their way to the top in these jobs.

So in hating Bush, let us not forget all of the stepping stones of the last 35 years, and sadly the fact that Obama is looking ever more like just another stone, in a long path of destruction, let us not forget the fact that it is, it was, it will always be a slow movement. We've gone from the New Deal, to the Raw Deal now, all the rift of issues once conquered are now back in full, wage theft, joblessness, low pay, no power for workers. A sixth of us are in or near poverty, and the rich have so much as to nearly be the elite crew in the Hunger Games.

Krugman: The Great Degrader [View all] ProSense Apr 2013 OP
K&R -- and somebody please tell President Obama MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #1
What I Hate liberalmike27 Apr 2013 #39
This needs to be shouted: raccoon Apr 2013 #42
Thank you for posting this! jazzimov Apr 2013 #2
Historian's take: Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #3
OOoooooooooooooo! BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2013 #35
Krugman sees clearly. hay rick Apr 2013 #4
Yep, linguistics...the language and words we use... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2013 #22
Worst ever. Agreed. We now live in a plutocracy. Faygo Kid Apr 2013 #5
So true fasttense Apr 2013 #33
I do not think bush was "arguably the worst ever" Skittles Apr 2013 #6
I struggle with that lakercub Apr 2013 #47
I have to give bush the edge because Skittles Apr 2013 #49
No doubt W was the worst ever, but no more of the "we may never recover" melodrama, please. reformist2 Apr 2013 #7
No question Bush was dishonest, Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2013 #8
No, there is no question. Bush was the worse and yes, we may never recover. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #10
You better go read up on Herbert Hoover. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #36
I have. Bush is by far worse. He destroyed our inherent political system. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #37
The least you can say about HH is that he had good intentions. eppur_se_muova Apr 2013 #43
Ten years secondvariety Apr 2013 #9
I'm thinking of sharing these words without mention who said them. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2013 #11
That's actually the Rove legacy... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #12
and the "ranch" was quietly sold right after the election... CTyankee Apr 2013 #13
The town of "Crawford" was a fraud too. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #19
"unprecedented level of systematic dishonesty " zeemike Apr 2013 #14
he's a tad behind the curve stupidicus Apr 2013 #15
bush was the worst and the only one who would have beaten his Cha Apr 2013 #16
They can't handle this truth... kentuck Apr 2013 #17
My response to Paul Krugman, in regard to his distaste for G.W. Bush Cliff Arnebeck Apr 2013 #18
With all due respect, ProSense Apr 2013 #20
The absurdity of the control we allowed Karl Rove to gain over our nation Cliff Arnebeck Apr 2013 #32
You know, ProSense Apr 2013 #34
Neither George W. Bush nor Karl Rove Individually Wrecked the Havoc. Justina For Justice Apr 2013 #40
A cabal of predatory monopoly capitalists as our problem Cliff Arnebeck May 2013 #56
Rove was bad, sure. So was bush. They both lied to the public. fishwax Apr 2013 #24
K&R Electric Monk Apr 2013 #21
well I have a bone to pick with my favorite hammer hfojvt Apr 2013 #23
Whenever ProSense Apr 2013 #25
you have always been adept hfojvt Apr 2013 #29
Also, I have to ask: ProSense Apr 2013 #26
Gulf of Tonkin? hfojvt Apr 2013 #27
You went ProSense Apr 2013 #28
I do object hfojvt Apr 2013 #30
First, ProSense Apr 2013 #31
To call what Clinton said a blatant lie is the same as saying evolution is "only a theory" Bandit Apr 2013 #54
and exactly when was it the lies regarding Tonkin were exposed stupidicus Apr 2013 #38
and yet you don't want to say anything hfojvt Apr 2013 #41
right stupidicus Apr 2013 #44
actually they do hfojvt Apr 2013 #45
oh good grief -- are you math challenged? stupidicus Apr 2013 #52
you are approving and supporting a lie right here hfojvt Apr 2013 #53
learn the meaning of the word "implied" stupidicus Apr 2013 #55
George AWOL Bush & the Cabal O'Corrupt Republican Cronies lied us into war Berlum Apr 2013 #46
I disagree a little bit.... AlbertCat Apr 2013 #48
. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #50
Too dumb to even be in the running. Cheney and Rove ran the show. TheMadMonk Apr 2013 #51
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