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backscatter712

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12. Two questions:

Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:15 AM

Apr 2013

First: Is Pope Francis on the side of the LGBT community at all? I suspect not.

Second: Assuming he was interested in such reforms (that's a big if), is he a leader, or isn't he? He's got the big hat, and the title, and has millions of people across the planet watching his every move. Even if he didn't have the political power, he could show some leadership. Even if he can't put on the Carnac the Magnificent hat, take the cellphone call from God and say New Rule: Gay is OK!, he could start saying that members of the gay community should be treated with Christian kindness, or he could deemphasize the crackdowns on LGBT rights and focus more on helping the poor, or something.

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Leftist priests: Francis can fix church 'in ruins' [View all] arely staircase Apr 2013 OP

it would be a step in the right direction madrchsod Apr 2013 #1

too busy condemning France for ending marriage discrimination. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #2

In all fairness, that's his job. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #3

"his job" is to do whatever "god" commands. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #4

I don't think that's how the Catholic Church works. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #5

Actually it is exactly how the Roman Catholic Church works. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #6

Not if it's the word of God and Catholic dogma. No can do. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #7

So why treat an institution that promotes such harmful edhopper Apr 2013 #8

He can issue and has issued new rules Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #11

Homosexuality being a sin is not a rule. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #19

"Thou shalt not kill" is also dogma, as you frame it. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #23

The Word of God arely staircase Apr 2013 #17

The Episcopal Church is not the Catholic Church. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #20

No, but like the Episcopal Church the Catholic Church can change it's views on things. arely staircase Apr 2013 #22

The Episcopal Church is catholic, just not Roman Catholic. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #26

that is correct arely staircase Apr 2013 #28

Yep. As Bill Maher put it, the Catholic Church is just like his show. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #9

Honeycomb is correct. Your letting your own views color, your perception of what he's doing. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #10

Two questions: backscatter712 Apr 2013 #12

As a lapsed Catholic, frankly, I am willing to give this Pope a chance, since it's the first time Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #15

Google Vatican I and II. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #13

And end up dead with a "heart attack" The Vatican is like an ancient Asiatic Court Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #14

So they murder each other? But what about 'the Word of God' others are claiming Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #16

Not often. And save the the "morality or religion" stuff for the faithful. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #18

Amazing how the prohibitions against homosexuality are set in stone... backscatter712 Apr 2013 #27

Likely not, if it's handled right, this Pope is running against a long tradition. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #30

Well I agree with that. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #29

Yep, I really think he is campaigning for change. He simply has to be very careful. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #31

Gay people and eating fish are examples of dogma and rules. The first is dogma... Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #21

What's the difference between "dogma" and "rules"? backscatter712 Apr 2013 #25

The difference between dogma and rules is...supposedly the "word of God." Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #33

His job is to run the RCC, not France MNBrewer Apr 2013 #24

The Church believes what the Pope tells it to believe Drale Apr 2013 #32