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In reply to the discussion: Krugman: The Great Degrader [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)28. You went
It is Alterman, whose signature book covers Roosevelt and Kennedy. I mention that only because I happen to be a fan of Alterman, was a daily reader of his blog Altercation before I joined DU, and Eric was very proud of his magnum opus "When Presidents Lie" a book which seemed kinda topical in the face of Krugman's assertion that Bush was the first President who lied (or something).
It also seemed relevant to mention, (although I qualified it by admitting it was not a "fundamental matter" Clinton's blatant lie of recent memory.
Once you blatantly lie like that, it is kinda hard to say "Trust me. I only lie about the little stuff, not the big, important stuff." or "I only had to lie to the public, because I was lying to my wife too."
It also seemed relevant to mention, (although I qualified it by admitting it was not a "fundamental matter" Clinton's blatant lie of recent memory.
Once you blatantly lie like that, it is kinda hard to say "Trust me. I only lie about the little stuff, not the big, important stuff." or "I only had to lie to the public, because I was lying to my wife too."
...into detail about Lewinsky.
Again, do you really equate the Lewinsky incident to lying the country into war and sanctioning torture? Are you really trying to equate Bush to Roosevelt and Kennedy? Or is this defend asshole Republicans day?
I mean, you posted this as if to object to Krugman's characterization of Bush.
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No doubt W was the worst ever, but no more of the "we may never recover" melodrama, please.
reformist2
Apr 2013
#7
No, there is no question. Bush was the worse and yes, we may never recover.
Katashi_itto
Apr 2013
#10
The absurdity of the control we allowed Karl Rove to gain over our nation
Cliff Arnebeck
Apr 2013
#32
Neither George W. Bush nor Karl Rove Individually Wrecked the Havoc.
Justina For Justice
Apr 2013
#40