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In reply to the discussion: Krugman: The Great Degrader [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)26. Also, I have to ask:
Also, Krugman, somewhat ridiculously closes with this "There was a time when Americans expected their leaders to be more or less truthful. Nobody expected them to be saints, but we thought we could trust them not to lie about fundamental matters. That time is now behind us and it was Bush who did it."
Really? So before that, uhm. Mr. Richard Milhaus Nixon never lied to us? And not that it is a "fundamental matter" but, Mr. William Jefferson Clinton stood before a camera and told the nation "I did not have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." I fervently hoped he was telling the truth, but I thought there was a very good chance he was lying. Krugman should consider reading Eric Alterman's book "When Presidents lie". He details the lies of Roosevelt, Kennedy, Johnson and Reagan.
Really? So before that, uhm. Mr. Richard Milhaus Nixon never lied to us? And not that it is a "fundamental matter" but, Mr. William Jefferson Clinton stood before a camera and told the nation "I did not have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." I fervently hoped he was telling the truth, but I thought there was a very good chance he was lying. Krugman should consider reading Eric Alterman's book "When Presidents lie". He details the lies of Roosevelt, Kennedy, Johnson and Reagan.
Do you really equate the Lewinsky incident to lying the country into war and sanctioning torture? Are you really trying to equate Bush to Roosevelt and Kennedy? Or is this defend asshole Republicans day?
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No doubt W was the worst ever, but no more of the "we may never recover" melodrama, please.
reformist2
Apr 2013
#7
No, there is no question. Bush was the worse and yes, we may never recover.
Katashi_itto
Apr 2013
#10
The absurdity of the control we allowed Karl Rove to gain over our nation
Cliff Arnebeck
Apr 2013
#32
Neither George W. Bush nor Karl Rove Individually Wrecked the Havoc.
Justina For Justice
Apr 2013
#40