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BainsBane

(53,001 posts)
112. False
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:51 PM
Apr 2013

entirely false. Repeating that kind of stereotype displays a steadfast determination to not learn. It truly is unfortunate.

If Islam itself is by nature oppressive to women, how do you explain the conditions of women in the Golden Age, that I mentioned in my previous post and you ignored? How do you explain Fatima Al-Majritiya, Fatima al-Fihri's, and Ibn Sina's critique of patriarchy?

I wish her well. TDale313 Apr 2013 #1
k&r n/t tammywammy Apr 2013 #2
speaks fluent american english with little accent & colloquialisms like "I was, like --" indicating HiPointDem Apr 2013 #3
so? that's your takeaway? wowzer. cali Apr 2013 #6
Is that what you call fluent English? n/t RebelOne Apr 2013 #49
She speaks good english, no doubt, but so do a lot of people all over the world. Quantess Apr 2013 #54
This person has attempted to discredit her from the start RainDog Apr 2013 #59
'most' do not. but it may explain why her last name is tyler. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #68
I'm so glad you're an expert on this issue RainDog Apr 2013 #71
as much as you. btw, amina's terrible family reportedly sent her her passport. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #75
Well, her cousin was the one who hit her RainDog Apr 2013 #76
her parents are supposedly the ones committing her to a psychiatric facility and drugging her to HiPointDem Apr 2013 #80
your lies are apparent RainDog Apr 2013 #84
the charge that she had been committed to a psychiatric facility was widely reported as truth by HiPointDem Apr 2013 #85
and she was asked about this in the video, above RainDog Apr 2013 #87
doesn't explain why femen reported her as interned in a psych facility when they had no way HiPointDem Apr 2013 #89
ah RainDog Apr 2013 #92
Ah, now you're blaming the victims. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #95
good example of smear tactics. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #102
Per interview with Amina, her family kept her literally under house arrest. Her family also kept her idwiyo Apr 2013 #109
i see your skepticism in unidimensional. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #169
This poster should ring a Bell. nt msanthrope Apr 2013 #70
Since I have spent my entire adult life around many people whose 2nd language is English RainDog Apr 2013 #72
Two threads that speak to the poster's 'expertise' on matters: msanthrope Apr 2013 #74
Oh, now I get it!!! Quantess Apr 2013 #91
It germinated over the past year in the Education forum....it's the worst kept secret on this msanthrope Apr 2013 #103
My metric for knowing when I'm on the correct side of an issue. joshcryer Apr 2013 #111
disgusting but perfectly in synch with all its posts. cali Apr 2013 #79
why cali, i thought we were friends. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #81
come clean with me, and that's a (remote) possibility cali Apr 2013 #86
hannah bell? Rex Apr 2013 #181
yep. cali Apr 2013 #188
"Its" posts? Fumesucker Apr 2013 #93
The full on assault by some people on du against brave women fighting for their rights sucks n/t Kurska Apr 2013 #96
Oh, you again on the wrong side of an issue RetroLounge Apr 2013 #104
My exposure to US expat community can be counted in hours, and I spent less than a week combined in idwiyo Apr 2013 #108
amina's english *is* fluent grammatically, and her accent isn't british or australian, so if it's HiPointDem May 2013 #203
Wow! Them ferinners can't learn our language. Skidmore May 2013 #198
'international schools' are international, with international staff. they also tend to cater to the HiPointDem May 2013 #202
No these schools are not necessarily limited to diplomatic Skidmore May 2013 #204
i understand what international schools are. i taught overseas for some time, & so did a close HiPointDem May 2013 #205
I lived overseas for a decade as well., taught, Skidmore May 2013 #206
amina is not a child. i wasn't talking about children, and i didn't teach children. i taught at HiPointDem May 2013 #207
Good, I'm glad you think I'm tiresome because you seem to so invested Skidmore May 2013 #208
k&r HappyMe Apr 2013 #4
it was so obvious she was under duress. I am beyond disgusted with cali Apr 2013 #5
It WAS obvious. There are people so intent on casting this in a certain light that they stevenleser Apr 2013 #7
Absolutely. I get called the bigot for criticizing a religion that systematically promotes bigotry. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #9
I never thought I would see feminists on DU using such ridiculous arguments to oppose feminism and stevenleser Apr 2013 #10
But we have to respect their culture of oppression! backscatter712 Apr 2013 #11
It's just unbelievable. I'm trying to think of any oppressed group that does this. I can't. stevenleser Apr 2013 #22
they must feel profoundly profoundly foolish right now.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #32
B-b-b-but.... BOOBS!!! backscatter712 Apr 2013 #36
yeh it's 'hate speech' according to some. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #40
Ah, the classic conflation of criticism of the Islamic religion with an attack on ethnicity. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #60
But, you probably will not hear them say that, though. Jamastiene Apr 2013 #77
We have people here claiming the mantle of feminism RainDog Apr 2013 #83
Is it a subset of feminists or a subset of progressives? pnwmom May 2013 #209
Huge percentage of them were women. There were one or two men. nt stevenleser May 2013 #215
Silly person... LadyHawkAZ Apr 2013 #107
It was feminists on du who, years ago, convinced me to change my opinion Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #37
Yet when I was not happy about the Tsarnaev mother setting up arranged marriages dkf Apr 2013 #52
do you have a link for this one? RainDog Apr 2013 #62
Here dkf Apr 2013 #64
Interesting. Some of the biggest defenders of misogyny in Islam pnwmom May 2013 #210
This message was self-deleted by its author dkf Apr 2013 #63
They really crapped their pants with that one. Bonobo Apr 2013 #100
You could try and learn something. BainsBane Apr 2013 #44
How women are treated in the Islamic world is taken straight out of the Quran. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #47
False BainsBane Apr 2013 #112
You are really reaching, aren't you? How about you talk here and now? idwiyo Apr 2013 #122
What's unfortunate is that you believe you're the one to 'teach' anyone here anything. nt. polly7 Apr 2013 #127
Anyone who is invested in intolerance above all else BainsBane Apr 2013 #129
LOL. That's it, I'm overcome with hatred. polly7 Apr 2013 #130
Well I didn't write any of articles in the links I posted BainsBane Apr 2013 #135
Oh, I'm sorry - quoting directly from the Quran is "reinforcing stereotype". backscatter712 Apr 2013 #149
You link to a site BainsBane Apr 2013 #150
Whee, and the accusations of bigotry continue. Talk about shit-stirring. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #151
The is nothing else left for them but rinse and repeat same old accusations of bigotry. idwiyo Apr 2013 #158
I particularly love how she presumes to criticize your ability to pick good sources... opiate69 Apr 2013 #159
And don't you know, you're completely unqualified to interpret the Quran or the Bible... backscatter712 Apr 2013 #160
prezactly. opiate69 Apr 2013 #161
that's perfect! so exactly precisely it. \n Phillip McCleod May 2013 #213
+1. Certain parties are using fake 'feminism' to attack islam. Those parties have no interest HiPointDem May 2013 #189
what you seem not to understand is that.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #55
because they think it doesn't make it true BainsBane Apr 2013 #99
that misses the point almost entirely.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #192
I disagree that fundamentalism is inevitable. fundamentalism is being promoted, and funded, HiPointDem May 2013 #190
fundamentalism dies? really? Phillip McCleod May 2013 #193
that's because the wealth and power of the two groups is widening, and yes, the people HiPointDem May 2013 #194
the people funding dominionism are wealthy. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #195
that's not an argument, that's an opinion. one i disagree with. as i disagree with your opinion HiPointDem May 2013 #196
again you attempt to deflect. i don't accept the deflection. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #197
i'm not deflecting anything. i simply don't see an argument there. yes, all holy books include HiPointDem May 2013 #200
there's an ex-muslim atheist making my point on huffpost.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #199
i don't care. there's probably an ex-muslim making my point somewhere too. HiPointDem May 2013 #201
well. guess this conversation is over then. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #212
Learn fucking what? That several hundred years ago it was more enlightened than Christianity or idwiyo Apr 2013 #110
No one was casting aspersions on Islam IN GENERAL. pnwmom May 2013 #211
Thank Jeebus the Meta forum was closed before the Amina-boob threads! msanthrope Apr 2013 #73
I told you so! backscatter712 Apr 2013 #8
That's a keeper pic! randome Apr 2013 #13
Ah, the things I find in Reddit on /r/atheism! n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #14
Wow, good one. Quantess Apr 2013 #33
Yep. When women have to ask permission, and sometimes are told yes... backscatter712 Apr 2013 #38
It's the cultural mindset. From a young age the children are taught that Quantess Apr 2013 #43
may i just say that all those who called me 'bigoted' against islam.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #12
I agree, but I am not holding my breath stevenleser Apr 2013 #15
not just 'boobs' either. also those parents aren't 'true muslims' now. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #16
No true Christians, no true Muslims, no true Scotsmen. n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #19
what?! no true *scotsmen* either?! Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #24
I'm gonna keep kicking this thread all day, just to rub their noses in it. n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #17
yeh i had someone put me on 'ignore' .. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #28
A-fucking-men. These twerps got a post of mine hidden. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #31
it's saturday .. i've nothing to do until noon.. and a full bag of weed.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #34
Here's mine that really hurt their pwecious widdle feewings. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #35
egads! for shame! Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #45
The Abrahamic religions are misogynist RainDog Apr 2013 #53
i often wonder if the cognitive dissonance so many.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #56
The Abrahamic religions killed the divine feminine RainDog Apr 2013 #58
Damned straight they owe us an apology. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #39
There's something you don't seem to get BainsBane Apr 2013 #41
If it's just a few bad apples... backscatter712 Apr 2013 #42
I agree that is outrageous BainsBane Apr 2013 #46
why do female u.s. soldiers have to cover up in saudi arabia? Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #48
Female soldiers in Saudi Arabia cover up out of respect BainsBane Apr 2013 #94
many words do not a coherent argument make. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #105
No BainsBane Apr 2013 #113
oh i read them. all of them.. wander though they did.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #118
apology for what? BainsBane Apr 2013 #123
for calling people 'bigots' because they suggested that Amina was coerced.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #126
I never did BainsBane Apr 2013 #128
ah i see, then i should just accept that i am a 'bigot' as you said? Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #132
Did I actually call you a bigot? BainsBane Apr 2013 #133
What you call bigotry toward atheism BainsBane Apr 2013 #134
what are the mental constructions RainDog Apr 2013 #165
That doesn't concern me BainsBane Apr 2013 #167
Your response doesn't answer the question RainDog Apr 2013 #168
It's clear to me that you haven't understood the statement BainsBane Apr 2013 #171
The mistake is your assumption RainDog Apr 2013 #172
What I see as bigotry does not relate to their own disbelief in a deity BainsBane Apr 2013 #173
Your problem is thinking you know what others think RainDog Apr 2013 #183
lol.. you can speak for me anytime raindog. ;) \n Phillip McCleod May 2013 #214
I thought this OP was about Amina and how she was and is treated. No? idwiyo Apr 2013 #120
that would be a first. we both know it doesn't work that way. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #50
How do we know she isn't currently being held captive and forced to say this by femen goons? octothorpe Apr 2013 #18
LMAO! You forgot the sarcasm tag!!! stevenleser Apr 2013 #20
Where's the fun in that? octothorpe Apr 2013 #26
Ah yes! I forgot they had a fast-response squad of bra-less ninjas! n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #21
I don't wear a bra... can I be one of those ninjas? octothorpe Apr 2013 #25
When you can snatch the pebble from my hand, young grasshopper! n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #29
holy shit that is hilarious! Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #30
TOPLESS femen goons no less?! Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #57
On the bright side, assuming we continue with the death penalty... backscatter712 Apr 2013 #67
KICK. Raine1967 Apr 2013 #23
Thank you, it's nice to see the truth. nt. polly7 Apr 2013 #27
Thanks for posting this RainDog Apr 2013 #51
So this was an interview conducted by FEMEN? R B Garr Apr 2013 #61
No. The post here that made claims about what she said was lying RainDog Apr 2013 #65
Ok, but none of those shit replies or the truth proving they were shit replies polly7 Apr 2013 #125
*A* patriarchy LadyHawkAZ Apr 2013 #136
+1000. I'm glad you corrected me on that and yes, you're exactly right. polly7 Apr 2013 #137
The only reason I can see for this LadyHawkAZ Apr 2013 #154
It's social conservatism pretending to feminism RainDog Apr 2013 #164
LOL, because Femen over Skype are coercive, as opposed to the repression from her family and police. stevenleser Apr 2013 #66
You could go into Anytown USA and find teenage angst about their upbringing R B Garr Apr 2013 #88
You started this post with "go into Anytown USA and find teenage angst about their upbringing", idwiyo Apr 2013 #144
This whole thread is about nothing but digging R B Garr Apr 2013 #145
Keep digging. idwiyo Apr 2013 #152
I see why no one else is posting in these threads anymore R B Garr Apr 2013 #156
Well, you started with BOOBIES!!!, and devolved to Amina's character assassination. idwiyo Apr 2013 #170
It reeks of desperate bullshit. Quantess Apr 2013 #153
The same could be said of this FEMEN "interview" R B Garr Apr 2013 #155
It's a joke because it contradicts your narrative you are so desperate to push? idwiyo Apr 2013 #157
Can you just be candid about what the problem really is? For all of our sakes. Quantess Apr 2013 #162
After reading a number of this persons posts, it's clear. It's the boobs stevenleser Apr 2013 #163
... RainDog Apr 2013 #166
Background links for this discussion RainDog Apr 2013 #69
K&R Jamastiene Apr 2013 #78
Amina is an anti-religion hater and bigot... MellowDem Apr 2013 #82
hold me closer RainDog Apr 2013 #90
The character attacks on this woman, some by self-proclaimed "feminists" on DU sicken me. Kurska Apr 2013 #97
A-fucking-men! backscatter712 Apr 2013 #98
Screw the character and revelations. That only plays into their hands. randome Apr 2013 #101
What attacks on this woman BainsBane Apr 2013 #114
I am glad you admit that Amina has every right to protest naked, to affiliate herself with FEMEN, idwiyo Apr 2013 #124
Yeah I'm really going to start linking to specific posts and naming specific posters. What an idea. Kurska Apr 2013 #131
okay, so I guess accusations without proof BainsBane Apr 2013 #146
Yeah, I'm going to help make DU suck to make you happy. Kurska Apr 2013 #147
Not to mention get your posts hidden, which is what would happen. stevenleser Apr 2013 #148
Ashamed? How DARE you! They are the Enlightened ones and we are the bigots here. idwiyo Apr 2013 #116
K&R idwiyo Apr 2013 #106
Is there a transcript of this interview available somewhere? kwassa Apr 2013 #115
Are you trying to say that her parents had no say at all in regards to where she was kept? idwiyo Apr 2013 #117
You had to wonder which way the anti-Femen/anti-Amina folks were going to go after this video stevenleser Apr 2013 #119
You gotta be kidding! Them WRONG? Not in a million years. idwiyo Apr 2013 #121
LOL, and that person is still at it! Here is a pic for the Amina/Femen critics stevenleser Apr 2013 #140
That's a good one! I am so going to steal it and use it from now on in my replies. idwiyo Apr 2013 #142
Wrong about what, exactly? kwassa Apr 2013 #139
LOL, see my #140 stevenleser Apr 2013 #141
I have no idea one way or another. Neither do you. kwassa Apr 2013 #138
Both of the videos were not enough for you? idwiyo Apr 2013 #143
Islam, the source of all oppression of women in the world BainsBane Apr 2013 #174
Drucill is not the leader of a country. He's a pastor of one church. randome Apr 2013 #175
The cleric who issued the Fatwa on Amina isn't the leader of Tunisia either BainsBane Apr 2013 #176
The cleric, however, has legions of followers who will gladly do his bidding. randome Apr 2013 #177
so being killed doesn't matter if it isn't in the name of religion? BainsBane Apr 2013 #180
Fine. I am bigoted against religions that treat women -or men- cruelly. randome Apr 2013 #182
But apparently not against those BainsBane Apr 2013 #186
No, but a source The Straight Story Apr 2013 #179
I was almost thinking your post was reasonable BainsBane Apr 2013 #187
Well, I declare Steven...it appears that you have completely infuriated the Holy Trollers yet again. Zorra Apr 2013 #178
LOL, true, but I'll respond the way teachers respond when a kid asks why they gave them a grade... stevenleser Apr 2013 #185
All of the posters (except 1) don't seem to have the courage to visit Bonobo Apr 2013 #184
I'm not surprised, only real cowards would launch an assault on a woman for expressing her freedom. Kurska May 2013 #191
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