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treestar

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43. No one said the buck did not stop with Obama
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 04:53 PM
Apr 2013

Though I think Truman is wrong in that. We should not allow the presidency that much power and it doesn't have it under the Constitution.

Why should Obama veto it if he thinks it is the right thing to do? The argument here is about whether it is the right thing to do. When the usual bellwethers of all that is Truly Progressive don't have a problem with it, then maybe there is no problem with it? Maybe it's not just to benefit the rich, or why would not Elizabeth Warren speak out? As Senator she can afford to do so more easily than the President. Same for Bernie.

Obama's Fault [View all] bigtree Apr 2013 OP
missing the point Skittles Apr 2013 #1
Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #6
Exactly! AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #30
"ENTIRE FUCKING SENATE votes for FAA bill" Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #2
calling and emailing does not seem to make much of an impact anymore Skittles Apr 2013 #8
Becase not enough of our side is doing it. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #9
gerrymandering makes them titanium. Whisp Apr 2013 #25
and you know that - how? Skittles Apr 2013 #58
And, the DEMS voted for it for a reason, LFR.. they know the big picture just like Cha Apr 2013 #11
Passed with unanimous consent. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #38
Yeah, any whiff and it brings out the ODS that has nothing to do with reality. Cha Apr 2013 #3
He is the whipping post for those who need someone to blame. freshwest Apr 2013 #4
And when gas prices go up, the same treestar Apr 2013 #17
Nobody's missing the point.. "W.H. warns against piecemeal sequester fixes" Cha Apr 2013 #5
You cant be serious. He is "firmly against piecemeal fixes" but cant or wont do rhett o rick Apr 2013 #15
He wanted to sign it just like those Dems who voted for it did so Cha Apr 2013 #23
I am just bitter because they fooled me too. I thought that at least lots of people would be rhett o rick Apr 2013 #34
So, he could have avoided caving and vetoed it. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #7
Veto Bernie Sanders and all the Dem Senators who voted FOR It. Cha Apr 2013 #10
It seems that the ones defending him are "blaming" the left for holding him to account. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #12
He didn't want to veto it.. the funds were in the FAA and they could be Cha Apr 2013 #21
"The Whole Picture" = "The Uniquely American Solution" bvar22 Apr 2013 #19
Well, we wouldn't want the poverty stricken politicians to be late for the fundraisers. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #27
Why would he veto it if Bernie Sanders is OK with it? treestar Apr 2013 #14
Oh, I don't know. Maybe to avoid folding and being held to account for it. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #16
If Bernie Sanders voted for it, it must be "progressive" no? treestar Apr 2013 #18
Really. Is Bernie's opinion sacrosanct to you? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #22
You mean Bernie is too conservative for you? treestar Apr 2013 #24
In this instance, yes. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #26
Now, did you take note of what Tierra y Libertad just did there? woo me with science Apr 2013 #36
Let's just blame it on Ole Bernie. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #39
That's your excuse for Bernie? treestar Apr 2013 #40
I'm sure you have equally valid reasons to throw kids off Head Start. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #44
You are changing the subject treestar Apr 2013 #50
And Wall Street Too!! Fuddnik Apr 2013 #53
... SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #54
Solution: Elect Bernie Sanders as President so that the buck stops with him. When he does AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #31
No one said the buck did not stop with Obama treestar Apr 2013 #43
Excuse me, but there are those who always come up with excuses and others to blame. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #49
This is not about Obama treestar Apr 2013 #51
Hammer meet nail Number23 Apr 2013 #61
If Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders voted for it treestar Apr 2013 #13
So Pres Obama, the leader of the Democratic Party rhett o rick Apr 2013 #28
There was no benefit in Vetoing it.. PBO, Warren, Sanders, and all the Cha Apr 2013 #32
Doesnt that strike you odd that the Democrats were on the same page as the REpublicans? rhett o rick Apr 2013 #35
No, it doesn't. It's not a black and white world. Cha Apr 2013 #37
I'm not against it treestar Apr 2013 #41
They all made a huge mistake. The Democrats that is. They fell right into the trap. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #46
Maybe Obama, Warren and others don't agree it is only for the 1%. treestar Apr 2013 #52
LOL. "It isnt good just for the 1%". That's exactly what they say about tinkle-down. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #59
Do you really suppose that if the economy crashed it would be a good thing? treestar Apr 2013 #60
"Blame them, blame someone." Blame anyone but Obama. It's never his fault. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #56
Exactly treestar.. it is something they wanted. They weren't arm twisted. PBO, Cha Apr 2013 #29
What I don't get is ProSense Apr 2013 #20
Many people don't know basic civics, how to contact their reps, or take the time to follow up on freshwest Apr 2013 #45
Somebody should talk to the leader of the Democratic Party, they MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #33
You mean the Chair of the DNC? Fuddnik Apr 2013 #42
Hmm... who's the Democrat at the top of the heap? MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #47
Is this a trick question? rhett o rick Apr 2013 #48
Heap? Fuddnik Apr 2013 #55
I don't blame Obama. I blame congress. n2doc Apr 2013 #57
K&R Jamaal510 Apr 2013 #62
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