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In reply to the discussion: Why we lost the gun debate in the Senate, and why we'll keep losing it. [View all]CincyDem
(6,283 posts)6. We lost this debate because...
...the Democratic Party is a coalition of ideals and the Republican Party is a cabal of action.
I abhor virtually everything the Republican Party stands for but I'm jealous of their efficiency and effectiveness. There is no question they are a freakin' machine when it comes to running the political process.
We're tied up in chit like the fairness of squelching rigorous debate by changing the filibuster rules. Nobody can predict the future but you know the first thing that will happen in a Republican controlled Senate is a temporary adjustment to the filibuster rules in response to the country's plea that something must be done. Just like the Supremes handed over 2000 to Bushco and then announced that their decision couldn't be used a precedent in any other proceeding, the Repub Senate will do some kind of legislative legerdemain that will make sure it's not the rule of the Senate should the Dems regain control.
Democrats play to play. Republicans play to win.
I've started out as a south side Chicago democrat before I could walk and have been every day since. I just wish we could coalesce around Democrats who could play to win because it seems like every morning I wake up, the Repubs are winning another couple inches of ground. Do that for 8-10-12 years and it adds up.
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Why we lost the gun debate in the Senate, and why we'll keep losing it. [View all]
Savannahmann
Apr 2013
OP
do you truly believe the RW would honestly debate the issues surrounding gun control?
DrDan
Apr 2013
#1
The Majority Of People Support Gun Control But It Is Not Important To Them? Yes
sarisataka
Apr 2013
#19
So the vast majority is being held hostage by a small, heavily armed minority of fanatics? n/t
ellisonz
Apr 2013
#72
A motivated minority is having an impact, but that is how the Senate was designed.
aikoaiko
Apr 2013
#79
As a progressive democrat I'm tired of being blamed when my warnings go unheeded.
HereSince1628
Apr 2013
#53
I'm pro-third party but eager for dems to run candidates who aren't repukes in blue
BethanyQuartz
Apr 2013
#28
Your point about the hubris of DiFi is well made and she is not the only one
ProgressiveProfessor
Apr 2013
#11
The purpose of this post is not to revisit Gun Control in this Congress, or the next.
Savannahmann
Apr 2013
#17
If you are expecting our politicians to be knowledgeable you might as well give up now
Fumesucker
Apr 2013
#70
These are irrational people who think they need to strap a gun or two on to venture out.
Hoyt
Apr 2013
#29