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graham4anything

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12. Without NH's 4 going for Bush, Gore was seated. It is a plain fact. 267 plus 4=271
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 10:38 AM
Apr 2013

Do I think W himself planned the Florida thingy before the fact?
Only in the sense that Republcians paid for and promoted Nader and ran on the both are the same meme to make it close enough for Florida to matter.

No one is professing love for Bush.

I am 100% consistent on blaming Ralph Nader and blaming those who voted for Ronald Reagan and John Anderson in 1980.

It is a fact.
And I consistently report that FACT.

And this blame Bush is going to backfire in that Jeb is running in 2016.
And if Hillary is the nominee, and people don't vote for her over some trivial wedge issue,
Jeb will become President45.

I am consistent and lay the blame on the fracture of the Democratic party in all the elections they lost in the last 80 years.

Starting with Adlai.

I am mortified everytime I see someone on a democratic board say how much they like Eisenhower.
Sheesh, if Eisenhower ran in 2016 against Adlai, I get the feeling the same people would vote for Ike and he won in 1952 and 1960.
NO those times were not good for a good majority of the people.

It took LBJ to make the times good, thanks to Martin Luther King Jr. and many others who helped build what LBJ signed into law.

Ralph Nader/NH was compicit in the theft of the 2000 election, is my answer, choice not there. graham4anything Apr 2013 #1
Hilarious! Octafish Apr 2013 #5
You nailed that one correctly. FarPoint Apr 2013 #13
No, Bush, the GOP in Florida and the Supreme Court stole the 2000 election. One of the 99 Apr 2013 #7
So running for president in the US is illegal? What was illegal about Ralph Nader's run sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #8
Without NH's 4 going for Bush, Gore was seated. It is a plain fact. 267 plus 4=271 graham4anything Apr 2013 #12
We are talking about the illegal theft of an election. You did not answer the question. The sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #18
Not true. IF it was a pre-planned conspiracy and not a CT, then yes, Nader part of it graham4anything Apr 2013 #20
Democrats voted for Thomas. So what's your point? The USSC committed a crime. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #21
Russ Feingold voted for John Roberts graham4anything Apr 2013 #28
You're either with the DLC... dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #34
Lol, so did Joe Biden. Again, what is your point other than avoiding the question I asked sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #35
And without Gore, Nader would have been seated. n/t Orsino Apr 2013 #49
How? Where would the 270 have come from? graham4anything Apr 2013 #50
That was more or less my point. Orsino Apr 2013 #51
No, it is nothing the same. There should only be 2 running in the general. graham4anything Apr 2013 #52
Not according to the Constitution. n/t Orsino Apr 2013 #56
Then don't complain about anything W ever did. According to it, W won. graham4anything Apr 2013 #57
My takeaway here is that third-party candidates shouldn't be allowed? Orsino Apr 2013 #58
"Bushfamily was compicit in the democratic party not being seated in the elections of Jenoch Apr 2013 #9
Gish Gallop - it's g4a's tactic of choice blm Apr 2013 #17
Nailed it. EOTE Apr 2013 #22
41,41,41,41,41,41,41. graham4anything Apr 2013 #23
Good to know. Jenoch Apr 2013 #26
I blame Gore significantly more than I blame Nader for Gore's loss. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #31
Complicit? Coyotl Apr 2013 #2
W. was always a stooge. Always. Orsino Apr 2013 #44
More like a very willing tool Coyotl Apr 2013 #47
Yes. We blew trillions and lost hundreds of thousands of people... Orsino Apr 2013 #48
He stole it and was aided and abetted by his brother and the Florida GOP and various stevenleser Apr 2013 #3
Exactly! FarPoint Apr 2013 #14
Here's the "Fahrenheit 9-11" scene with Dubya & Jeb sitting in a plane guaranteeing the interviewer pacalo Apr 2013 #19
The BFEE had an idiot cousin working at Fox noise calling Florida for the smirking gangster. Octafish Apr 2013 #4
Ditto cheers for Cliff Arnebeck! FarPoint Apr 2013 #16
Thanks to Octafish, expert on major media and politics Cliff Arnebeck Apr 2013 #41
Of course he was complicit. HappyMe Apr 2013 #6
Yes, he did. He had Katherine Harris, his entire crooked family, mostly The USSC who committed sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #10
We have our work cut out for us for 2014 and beyond. HappyMe Apr 2013 #15
the protest or fracture will throw the election to Jeb. Is it not obvious? graham4anything Apr 2013 #24
So what you are saying is that we should never, ever protest bad policies put forward by our sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #27
Words have consequences. So do actions.Protesters are small minorities with loud voices graham4anything Apr 2013 #30
Too dumb to be the brains of the operation but he had to be actively complicit to pull it off. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2013 #11
Exactly. nt Lisa0825 Apr 2013 #25
Kick! hedgehog Apr 2013 #29
Really? Theft of the Presidency? jschurchin Apr 2013 #32
Why it's important that the posters and voters in this thread consider your point of view Cliff Arnebeck Apr 2013 #36
My comment on this to Paul Krugman, in regard to his distaste for G.W. Bush Cliff Arnebeck Apr 2013 #42
Thank you for the links Cliff jschurchin Apr 2013 #43
What would you call it? Zoeisright Apr 2013 #46
There are semantical issues with the poll. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #33
Both the 2000 and 2004 Presidential elections were a product of criminal election theft activity Cliff Arnebeck Apr 2013 #40
Bush has a thing for being the one to call shots. Knightraven Apr 2013 #37
JEB BUSH was complicit too! Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #38
Oh he definitely stole it no question, Initech Apr 2013 #39
Definitely innocent....... whistler162 Apr 2013 #45
Rove benefits from the vitriol unleashed against President G.W. Bush Cliff Arnebeck Apr 2013 #53
Hell yes, ridiculous to even suggest otherwise. lpbk2713 Apr 2013 #54
Bush made it pretty clear he didn't believe it when Florida was called for Gore. mattclearing Apr 2013 #55
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