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H2O Man

(73,321 posts)
51. Right.
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 12:51 AM
Dec 2012

I think that everything in the Constitution is there for a reason. It's worth our while, should we try to be responsible citizens, to learn both "how" and "why" it contains the things it does. I think it's fair to say that the Bill of Rights focuses less on if a specific right existed on its own, and more on the fact that because of human nature, there would be attempts to deny people their rights.

Obviously, it is a good thing that the Constitution, properly understood, was not written on stone tablets. It's not to be worshipped, and kept separate and secret from people in their daily lives. It's the muscles of democracy, in need of constant exercising.

It also provides for some almost humorous contradictions. For example, Amendment 1 provides for freedom of religion. Yet, in 1978, the Congress passed the Native American Religious Freedom Act. Apparently, some viewed Native American belief systems as, well, foreign to the American experience. Thus, these "religions" required something in the way of additional protects in our complex society. And since 1978, the federal courts have been consistent in denying traditional Native Americans religious freedom, and justifying it by way of this law.

Thanks for taking my response in the manner it was intended. I always enjoy civil discussions of even the most emotional of topics found on DU. I appreciate that you do, too.

Amendment 2 Blues [View all] H2O Man Dec 2012 OP
You cite PA & VT but those states declared RKBA was "natural, inherent, and jody Dec 2012 #1
It's not clear H2O Man Dec 2012 #3
You used "Bill of Rights" and that opens questions as to their source. Your failure to discuss that jody Dec 2012 #6
You are silly. H2O Man Dec 2012 #21
Since you imply you are serious and meaningful, please define the source of rights you cite in OP. jody Dec 2012 #22
Well, the Bill of Rights H2O Man Dec 2012 #25
Obviously you can't answer a simple question. You really don't know much about "rights" do you! nt jody Dec 2012 #26
Dude you are way too angry -- bad day? Bad week? Year? coeur_de_lion Dec 2012 #28
LOL you and OP author need to get your facts straight before more posts. nt jody Dec 2012 #30
I didn't state any facts . . . . oh wait I did -- the fact that you are way too angry coeur_de_lion Dec 2012 #41
LOL you and OP author know bare minimum or less about RKBA much less about rights in general. jody Dec 2012 #43
Oh honey give it a rest would ya? coeur_de_lion Dec 2012 #46
I see you are just another disruptor full of vacuous remarks devoid of substance. Goodbye nt jody Dec 2012 #49
He's mad that his guy lost the election. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #62
Patrick Buchanan? H2O Man Dec 2012 #63
. NoGOPZone Dec 2012 #65
Is that it? Poor him. n/t coeur_de_lion Dec 2012 #67
Should you show H2O Man Dec 2012 #31
22. "please define the source of rights you cite in OP." I'm betting you can't but you'll reply with jody Dec 2012 #34
While I am H2O Man Dec 2012 #35
Enough, you've proven you can't answer that simple question so nothing else you post has credibility jody Dec 2012 #36
Oh deer! H2O Man Dec 2012 #39
I'll take a shot...Is it your contention that the 2nd amendment, and others, secure jmg257 Dec 2012 #40
Fair enough. H2O Man Dec 2012 #44
Seems like I am with you. The right to self defense certainly is a basic right. But jmg257 Dec 2012 #47
Also realizing, like Madison said..."the restrictions, however strongly marked on paper, jmg257 Dec 2012 #50
Right. H2O Man Dec 2012 #51
Cheers! And I agree on the points you made. jmg257 Dec 2012 #54
Several times in H2O Man Dec 2012 #58
I do steer into the religious territory from time to time...I'll have to pay more attention. nt jmg257 Dec 2012 #59
The notion of "Inherent Rights" is nonsense on stilts. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #61
Good article on 2nd Amendment bongbong Dec 2012 #2
The NRA H2O Man Dec 2012 #4
The dirty truth is SQUEE Dec 2012 #5
Hmmm bongbong Dec 2012 #7
Wolverine syndrome.. cute, SQUEE Dec 2012 #8
Uh huh bongbong Dec 2012 #11
I wonder... SQUEE Dec 2012 #24
That certainly was a long way of saying...just what exactly? nt jmg257 Dec 2012 #9
and your bird can sing H2O Man Dec 2012 #68
The 2nd amendment is now an NRA talking point too. L0oniX Dec 2012 #10
LOL bongbong Dec 2012 #12
bongbong why don't you consolidate all your insults and other vilifications into one post because jody Dec 2012 #14
I love these types of posts! bongbong Dec 2012 #15
bongbong do you have a link to any study that equates insults with intelligence? jody Dec 2012 #17
LOL bongbong Dec 2012 #19
bongbong you frequently refer to NRA Talking Points. Do you have a link to them or is that just jody Dec 2012 #20
The Delicate Flower resorts to insults. madinmaryland Dec 2012 #71
Excellent except on one point grantcart Dec 2012 #13
Indeed. All part of the fun of being a nation of laws. Robb Dec 2012 #16
"Well regulated" quite cleary refers to "militia", and has little to do with the right to arms, jmg257 Dec 2012 #18
Yes Congress has all the authority it needs for the militia in Article I, Section 8, clauses 15 & 16 jody Dec 2012 #27
"A proper reading of H2O Man Dec 2012 #37
You mean Madison's religious exemption, or the Senate's 'for the common defence'? jmg257 Dec 2012 #66
Madison's comments in H2O Man Dec 2012 #70
Great post panader0 Dec 2012 #23
There's been a H2O Man Dec 2012 #33
"the need to address the brutal realties of violence in America demands action, now." coeur_de_lion Dec 2012 #29
Thanks. H2O Man Dec 2012 #32
I know isn't he FUN? More than he realizes n/t coeur_de_lion Dec 2012 #42
At first, I thought H2O Man Dec 2012 #45
no conversation going on with this fruity person coeur_de_lion Dec 2012 #48
Oh, please don't H2O Man Dec 2012 #52
Read this stuff? Not if our friends Jack and Daniel have anything to say about it. coeur_de_lion Dec 2012 #56
You know the ignore function? coeur_de_lion Dec 2012 #53
A pallus day H2O Man Dec 2012 #55
Ah the memories. Bless her. Martha that is. coeur_de_lion Dec 2012 #57
K & R libdem4life Dec 2012 #38
Thank you H2O Man Dec 2012 #60
k&r... a voice of reason among the insanity spanone Dec 2012 #64
Thank you. H2O Man Dec 2012 #69
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