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H2O Man

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31. Very good!
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:45 PM
Dec 2012

In the OP, I quoted from an old letter from Rubin; by no coincidence, I called him about an hour ago. Rube refers to the historical figure Jesus as "the Master." So it does me good to see you referencing things that Jesus spoke of here, on this thread. Thank you for that.

Jesus's teachings include lessons on love, truth, gentleness, and -- again by no coincidence -- the Goodness of children. There is no greater truth to be found in the gospels, or any of the other books in that collection we call the bible.

Rubin's friend, Minister Malcolm X, used to say that you best prevent crime from the context of the high chair, rather than the electric chair. That saying, in an era influenced by some very impressive "baby doctors," caught on. In fact, none other than the Director of the FBI, J. Edgar Hoover, would use the quote in several speeches. I've often wondered if he was aware of its origins? Either way, the very idea that as sick an individual as Hoover could learn suggests that there is still hope for our society ..... so long as people be exposed to the concepts of Goodness and Truth.

You may already know this, but I'll repeat it for others: The Haudenosaunee, or what the Euro-Americans called the Six Nations Iroquois Confederacy, can trace the "law" (or, more accurately, mutually agreed upon social contract) that insured that children could not be punished by hitting, back to about 475 AD. The Great Law of Peace recognized then, as it recognizes today, that the treatment of little ones defines society.

As always, I appreciate the opportunity to talk with you!

scapegoat [View all] H2O Man Dec 2012 OP
Compassion, understanding, and education instead of fear, finger-pointing, and exclusion. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #1
Thank you. And it applies to so much more than just the mentally ill. woo me with science Dec 2012 #2
Now they have arrested Santa: AnotherDreamWeaver Dec 2012 #3
Good god. woo me with science Dec 2012 #4
Extremely important point. H2O Man Dec 2012 #11
Yes! The NRA are a powerful political and social lobby for weapons manufacturers and salesmen! n/t Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #18
Thank you all for keeping this discussion alive. Let's solve the root problems, not the symptoms. Gregorian Dec 2012 #22
Very good! H2O Man Dec 2012 #31
I'm most grateful, and enriched, from hearing your experiences. Gregorian Dec 2012 #32
He was friends H2O Man Dec 2012 #33
You'll have a hard time convincing me ... GeorgeGist Dec 2012 #5
Not all mental illness is an imprimatur of being a danger to ones' self or others. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #8
Although it's not H2O Man Dec 2012 #12
Gotcha, and Thank You. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #13
Absolutely! H2O Man Dec 2012 #14
I'm not a danger to anyone. It's kind of degrading to have to say it, or even be asked. Denninmi Dec 2012 #27
Too bad his mother didn't deal with that. savannah43 Dec 2012 #9
It's easy: H2O Man Dec 2012 #10
Recommended me b zola Dec 2012 #6
Thanks! H2O Man Dec 2012 #16
K&R. Well said. Overseas Dec 2012 #7
Thank you. H2O Man Dec 2012 #17
Highly recommended CrazyOrangeCat Dec 2012 #15
Thanks. H2O Man Dec 2012 #19
Recommended. mmonk Dec 2012 #20
Thanks! H2O Man Dec 2012 #23
Thanks so much. mmonk Dec 2012 #25
kickrec Eric the Reddish Dec 2012 #21
Thank you H2O Man Dec 2012 #24
Chief Waterman told him that this was not his true identity... Octafish Dec 2012 #26
A different reality ...... H2O Man Dec 2012 #28
What Happened To The Young Man? Me. Dec 2012 #29
He still H2O Man Dec 2012 #30
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