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Mike 03

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2. It's not right to say that IMO
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:56 AM
Aug 2020

It's been a long time since I've read it, but the subsequent books about RussiaGate take pains to remind readers that the vast majority of the Steele Dossier was corroborated. When people say it was "a lie" or untrue they are usually referring to the "pee tapes." It's true that the pee tapes were never corroborated, but nor have they ever been discredited. And it's easy to understand why.

Maybe other DUers will have another opinion, but that's how I view the Steele Dossier.

An important thing to keep in mind about the SD is that it never pretended to be "the truth." It was a collection of tips gathered over a period of months from sources Steele believed to be mostly credible, offered for what they were worth rather than as an assertion of fact.

Christopher Steele was no charlatan; he ran the Russia Desk at MI-6 and had a stellar reputation.

The Steele Dossier turned out to be untrue? [View all] Baitball Blogger Aug 2020 OP
Some parts yes some no underpants Aug 2020 #1
It's not right to say that IMO Mike 03 Aug 2020 #2
That's not my recollection Jarqui Aug 2020 #3
That's my recollection, too!! donkeypoofed Aug 2020 #9
Lawfareblog does a pretty good breakdown of it soothsayer Aug 2020 #12
No, most of it was ... NOT ... untrue that's a bad assessment and feeds winger narrative. uponit7771 Aug 2020 #4
This!👆 SheltieLover Aug 2020 #7
The dossier's purpose was not to parse truth C_U_L8R Aug 2020 #5
It wasn't a Dossier. It was a collection of raw data memos, that would OnDoutside Aug 2020 #6
We have a winner.... Boxerfan Aug 2020 #18
By the way, good catch. Mike 03 Aug 2020 #8
I was really surprised how he took an offense position, claiming that they also Baitball Blogger Aug 2020 #11
I've read that most of the dossier, if not all, has proved true... abqtommy Aug 2020 #10
Yep--the only thing that hasn't been shown are the golden shower tapes. panader0 Aug 2020 #14
Lawfareblog has a good review that says things in the SD are true or haven't been disproven soothsayer Aug 2020 #13
lawfare is a very good site NewJeffCT Aug 2020 #16
It's kind of a mess to be honest Sympthsical Aug 2020 #15
The dossier was raw intel data, not facts or even opinion... Wounded Bear Aug 2020 #19
When you get into the Carter Page stuff Sympthsical Aug 2020 #21
No Gothmog Aug 2020 #17
It's true in my mind. It was tame, IMO. Trump is way worse. Baked Potato Aug 2020 #20
Let me say this about the "pee tape" ScratchCat Aug 2020 #22
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