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grantcart

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29. The Senate is not now, nor has it ever been "a continuing body" a common misconception
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 04:27 PM
Jul 2020

"Congress" is commonly used as a term referring to the House of Representatives and the Senate referred to by its name the Senate. This is actually incorrect.

The House and the Senate meet "in congress" for two year terms. This is the 116th Congress. It is the 116th formulation of the House and the 116th formulation of the Senate. This term of Congress expires on 1/3/2019 and a new Congress will be established.

This Congress started on 1/3/2019 and ends on 1/3/21. All of the offices, appointments and rules terminate on that day. There is no continuing offices, resolutions or rules. There is a procedure in each body to certify new members and only until that is completed can the 117th Congress of the United States begin its work. It will first elect its officers and then approve the standing rules. Until that happens there is no 117th Congress and no position of authority in the House or the Senate is "carried over".

Each Congress lasts exactly 2 years and then end. We don't have a Congress, we have had 117 official meetings of Congress, each constituted with its own leaders and rules with a starting day and an ending day.

In threads like this many will suppose that the Speaker continues, the Senate continues, etc. None of that is true because the 116th Congress will, like the 115 Congress's before it, come to an end, its term having expired.

It has also been postulated that Grassley will be the President Pro Tem (or Patrick Leahy) because they are the longest serving Senators in their party. That is by custom. If the PPT position were to actually become a likely President by succession I would assume that both parties would select someone more suitable for President, like Mitt Romney for the Republicans or Senator Warren for the Democrats.







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/116th_United_States_Congress

The 116th United States Congress is the current meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government, composed of the Senate and the House of Representatives. It convened in Washington, D.C., on January 3, 2019, and will end on January 3, 2021,

That's how it's done wryter2000 Jul 2020 #1
President Pelosi I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2020 #2
+1000 Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #3
he isn't rational anymore just simply desperate Roc2020 Jul 2020 #4
Love it. K&R crickets Jul 2020 #5
It wouldn't be President Pelosi. patphil Jul 2020 #6
After January 3rd disambiguation Jul 2020 #7
To play along here, any Democratic majority in that scenario may be fleeting. tritsofme Jul 2020 #12
No matter who's right in this sub-thread, it's clear that the actual outcome would be total chaos. Towlie Jul 2020 #23
The "technical majority" would pass new Senate Rules by a majority vote grantcart Jul 2020 #27
The Senate is a continuing body. Absent a new organizing resolution tritsofme Jul 2020 #28
The Senate is not now, nor has it ever been "a continuing body" a common misconception grantcart Jul 2020 #29
The Senate is most certainly a continuing body. tritsofme Jul 2020 #33
It is astonishing that people become so invested in defending facts that can be found easily grantcart Aug 2020 #35
Real world examples are illustrative. Following the 2002 election, Republicans retook the Senate tritsofme Aug 2020 #36
Checking the actual Senator resolution I find that your rendering of the term of President Pro Tem grantcart Aug 2020 #37
There WILL be an election. Trump may challenge the result of the Presidential votes in a lawsuit louzke9 Jul 2020 #8
She is still Speaker until a new Speaker is chosen dansolo Jul 2020 #19
Incorrect. She is the Speaker of the 116th Congress. grantcart Jul 2020 #30
CA would still have an election and Pelosi would have been reelected Tumbulu Jul 2020 #21
Patphil, I agree only that on Jan 3 we'd see high drama in Hortensis Jul 2020 #25
And, here's a tweet for those who want to Rt.. Cha Jul 2020 #9
Eugene Gu, MD should delete that because it's wrong. Mariana Jul 2020 #10
Oh dear.. :( I guess he didn't think of that.. So who would Cha Jul 2020 #11
President pro tempore of the Senate is next. Mariana Jul 2020 #13
Thanks. Depressing. Cha Jul 2020 #14
President Patrick Leahy GigiLeigh Jul 2020 #15
Interesting article, thanks for posting, and welcome to DU! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2020 #16
I see that, first time poster.. You did great, GigiLeigh! Cha Jul 2020 #17
Thanks. Glad to be here! GigiLeigh Jul 2020 #18
I'm glad he's not 1/10th the genius he thinks he is. marble falls Jul 2020 #24
One TENTH?? AZ8theist Jul 2020 #32
The Speaker isn't required to be a member dansolo Jul 2020 #20
Plus if CA has its election Speaker Pelosi will be relected Tumbulu Jul 2020 #22
Thanks, I was wondering about that.. why would states Cha Jul 2020 #31
K&R UTUSN Jul 2020 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author marie999 Aug 2020 #34
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