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Kid Berwyn

(14,863 posts)
9. Too many.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:05 PM
Jul 2020


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Three-star Adm. Thomas Copeman, who from 2012 to 2014 was in charge of the fitness of the Navy’s ships for combat, had made clear to his superiors in 2013 that it was getting harder to “look the troops in the eye and say, ‘Hey, just do it.’”

Copeman said he was pushed out of his job after he spoke out. But he doesn’t regret it.
“If you're an admiral in the Navy,” he said, “you may have to make that decision to send people into combat, and you better not have blood on your hands the rest of your life because you didn't do everything you could in peacetime to make them ready.”

These firsthand accounts by Aucoin, Copeman and others are supported by thousands of pages of internal Navy records, public reports and confidential investigations obtained by ProPublica: a 2010 report that all but predicted the accidents; data kept by admirals vividly demonstrating how thin the 7th Fleet was stretched; a 13,000-page investigation that lays bare the extraordinary risks commanders were willing to have their sailors face.

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https://features.propublica.org/navy-accidents/us-navy-crashes-japan-cause-mccain/
When do they just throw up their hands and scuttle it? Nevilledog Jul 2020 #1
The Navy scuttles darn few of its ships ever. There is also 1 million gal of fuel on it. marble falls Jul 2020 #3
Yikes! Nevilledog Jul 2020 #5
They claim the fuel is far enough from the fire. My thought is if there was any thought of ... marble falls Jul 2020 #6
How'd you like to be fighting that knowing there's that much gas? Nevilledog Jul 2020 #8
Now imagine that at sea figthing flames under fire on battle from planes ... marble falls Jul 2020 #11
I dont think that harbor is deep enough for it to sink all the way? Its gonna melt, its aluminium Baclava Jul 2020 #17
Not aluminum FBaggins Jul 2020 #19
Oh OK, I thought it was one of the new ones, looks like its still melting though Baclava Jul 2020 #21
Maybe some of the superstructure FBaggins Jul 2020 #22
Fire still going strong, how long can it burn? Baclava Jul 2020 #23
can't scuttle it even if they wanted to Amishman Jul 2020 #20
More information from DUers in the know... albacore Jul 2020 #2
They use a lot of magnesium too ornotna Jul 2020 #12
The ship isn't melting in the true sense hack89 Jul 2020 #13
If she was being refit, wouldn't the ammo and movable explosive materials have been removed? albacore Jul 2020 #16
Not necessarily. hack89 Jul 2020 #18
I was in the USCG and my ship was in dry dock a couple of times, yortsed snacilbuper Jul 2020 #24
How many ships have had serious accidents since the Con took over? n/t malaise Jul 2020 #4
Too many. Kid Berwyn Jul 2020 #9
Thanks for this malaise Jul 2020 #10
Get me Malcolm Nance Sedona Jul 2020 #7
And San Diegos air quality is disgusting now FreeState Jul 2020 #14
Sailors are firefighters Chainfire Jul 2020 #15
PINO's Not Concerned ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #25
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