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Kid Berwyn

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62. Passport to Magonia
Tue May 28, 2019, 08:15 PM
May 2019

http://www.autodidactproject.org/other/vallee_magonia.html



Three men and a woman, actually. They fell from the sky, it would seem, in the vicinity of Lyon in what’s now eastern France, early in the ninth century. They came from a place called Magonia.

So the local mob believed, as they prepared to stone them to death.

We have the story from Agobard, Archbishop of Lyon (c. 779-840), in a treatise directed against “the absurd opinion of the common folk concerning hail and thunder.” Agobard prided himself on his enlightenment; Scripture, not superstition, was for him the touchstone of truth. Here’s the story he tells, as translated by W. J. Lewis for the Internet Medieval Sourcebook:

“But we have seen and heard of many people overcome with so much foolishness, made crazy by so much stupidity, that they believe and say that there is a certain region, which is called Magonia, from which ships come in the clouds. In these ships the crops that fell because of hail and were lost in storms are carried back into that region; evidently these aerial sailors make a payment to the storm-makers, and take the grain and other crops. Among those so blinded with profound stupidity that they believe these things could happen we have seen many people in a kind of meeting, exhibiting four captives, three men and one woman, as if they had fallen from these very ships. As I have said, they exhibited these four, who had been chained up for some days, with such a meeting finally assembling in our presence, as if these captives ought to be stoned. But when truth had prevailed, however, after much argument, the people who had exhibited the captives, in accordance with the prophecy (Jeremiah 2:26) ‘were confounded … as the thief is confounded when he is taken.’ ”

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https://www.davidhalperin.net/the-mystery-men-of-magonia/

They're here! jpak May 2019 #1
When Gort shows up, "Klaatu barada nikto" a couple of times should do the trick. yonder May 2019 #33
Fascinating subject that defies our current understanding. Kid Berwyn May 2019 #2
I hope Dotard doesn't start a panic. Ilsa May 2019 #14
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I'm fine with him showing how batshit crazy he is. Ilsa May 2019 #44
Thank you for the heads-up. Kid Berwyn May 2019 #61
Thank you! I'll look for that! nt Ilsa May 2019 #64
This has been happening throughout recorded history. triron May 2019 #21
Passport to Magonia Kid Berwyn May 2019 #62
but edhopper May 2019 #3
Zero evidence? colorado_ufo May 2019 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2019 #70
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Unidentified Flying Objects PJMcK May 2019 #4
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This DesertRat May 2019 #23
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This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer May 2019 #26
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This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer May 2019 #48
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That was the point. Progressive dog May 2019 #38
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This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo May 2019 #15
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The questions surrounding the possibility of intelligent alien Enoki33 May 2019 #19
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Never say never Baclava May 2019 #49
+1 Chin music May 2019 #56
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... orangecrush May 2019 #29
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