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154. Who fell for it? Kirsten Gillibrand.

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Tue Jul 31, 2018, 11:57 AM

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Al Franken [View all] babylonsister Jul 2018 OP

I still love Al. no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 #1

Me too DownriverDem Jul 2018 #96

Nixon came back? I'd love to see Al in Congress again too...n/t Upthevibe Jul 2018 #152

I miss him and I will never get over how he was treated BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #183

:CrossesFingers: demmiblue Jul 2018 #2

maybe he can try for governor of Minnesota NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #31

Just what I was thinking. True Blue American Jul 2018 #32

It's too late for that, since the election is this year and MineralMan Jul 2018 #56

+1 geardaddy Jul 2018 #112

I have trouble not being angry still at what happened to Franken. hlthe2b Jul 2018 #3

Agree 100% cubbies01 Jul 2018 #4

Yep. Inappropriate sexual behavior was wrongly lumped in as sexual assault. Funtatlaguy Jul 2018 #5

The party needed to keep the image clean, and had to do it. lindysalsagal Jul 2018 #7

because the corporate media wouldn't stop adding Al to every discussion about the real abuse rainy Jul 2018 #21

But also dems... B Stieg Jul 2018 #108

Corporatist media balances the beam with the speck. n/t MarcA Jul 2018 #173

Oh bullshit RandomAccess Jul 2018 #138

Not by succumbing to obvious railroading pandr32 Jul 2018 #161

That's a position that's easy for enemies to take advantage of. Beartracks Jul 2018 #181

Given the situation in which it happened, I still have trouble calling it Neema Jul 2018 #10

There are levels of wrongdoing in our society. Funtatlaguy Jul 2018 #13

Who fell for it? Kirsten Gillibrand. calimary Jul 2018 #154

There's no inappropriate behavior at a USO show LakeArenal Jul 2018 #145

It wasn't even that... lame54 Jul 2018 #170

my take ProfessorPlum Jul 2018 #192

Yep. The GOP played that one perfectly. Let the Dems shoot themselves in the foot. Neema Jul 2018 #11

Yep! She did and I will never forgive her for that. LittleGirl Jul 2018 #30

I agree with you LittleGirl HelenWheels Jul 2018 #165

she didn't "fall for it" .... i think she jumped into it willingly. trueblue2007 Jul 2018 #171

This ++++ ReformedGOPer Jul 2018 #24

I can not vote True Blue American Jul 2018 #33

Thirty-two Democratic senators called on Franken to resign oberliner Jul 2018 #42

Because she used it as a cynical political prop maybe? johnnyknj Jul 2018 #59

Because she led the effort. MineralMan Jul 2018 #60

i remember. and my two senators from illinois orleans Jul 2018 #83

The effort was led and coordinated by 6 female Democratic senators, including Kamala Harris oberliner Jul 2018 #84

Fortunately for them, none are running in my state. MineralMan Jul 2018 #100

She also went to Franken's office Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #101

It was a miscalculation on her part. MineralMan Jul 2018 #103

Franked decided to resign Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #109

My opinion in the matter is different from yours. MineralMan Jul 2018 #116

Post removed Post removed Jul 2018 #118

It is my opinion. What you think it is based on MineralMan Jul 2018 #120

As a truly great Senator once said Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #123

Use caution. That's my suggestion to you regarding MineralMan Jul 2018 #124

Maybe you should look in the mirror Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #128

.. MineralMan Jul 2018 #131

So you admit that you have no facts Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #132

.. MineralMan Jul 2018 #134

Still not posting any facts Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #137

.. MineralMan Jul 2018 #158

Thank you, MineralMan. kag Jul 2018 #177

Had Al stayed we wouldn't be voting for him in 2018. dflprincess Jul 2018 #193

Yes. All around the situation is a bad one. MineralMan Aug 2018 #197

She was the one leading the charge. She was the one that hit the talk shows. pazzyanne Jul 2018 #61

Gillibrand, McCaskill, Hassan, Hirono, Harris, Murray and Baldwin put out statements together oberliner Jul 2018 #75

My opinion, my vote. Thanks for playing. pazzyanne Jul 2018 #179

Asked and answered dozens of times BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #115

Not true. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #146

Do you also find it funny that there aren't continuing accusations against Roy Moore? mythology Jul 2018 #43

I'm still absolutely livid. I think I get angrier the worse things get in this country. Neema Jul 2018 #6

Exactly onlyadream Jul 2018 #8

Exactly. appal_jack Jul 2018 #20

Thirty-two Democratic senators called on Franken to resign oberliner Jul 2018 #44

Yep, all of them. onlyadream Jul 2018 #54

Oh please. You know the answer to your posts on this just as we all do. brush Jul 2018 #68

There were six female Democratic senators who coordinated the initial statements together oberliner Jul 2018 #88

Oh please again. Gillebrand was first out of the gate on this. brush Jul 2018 #95

Also, She went to Franken's office Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #121

Nice fiction, bro. Mine is fact though. Google it. brush Jul 2018 #144

Every GOP Senator defends Trump, so they are correct also? nt USALiberal Jul 2018 #188

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2018 #15

Amen. (nt) Paladin Jul 2018 #26

Can't blame Al for leaving the Senate The Wizard Jul 2018 #35

Exactly BigOleDummy Jul 2018 #40

Why the focus on KG? oberliner Jul 2018 #45

Have you read any of the posts on this thread? pazzyanne Jul 2018 #66

6 female senators call on fellow Democratic Senator Al Franken to resign oberliner Jul 2018 #89

It's her history in this debacle, pure and simple. pazzyanne Jul 2018 #91

Kamala Harris called on Franken to resign at the same time as Gillibrand oberliner Jul 2018 #94

She wasn't leading the charge. pazzyanne Jul 2018 #97

Plus She went to Franken's office Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #111

It was actually Schumer who met with Franken and told him to resign oberliner Jul 2018 #182

Cuz she keeps doubling down, tripling down on her self righteous decision LakeArenal Jul 2018 #180

Wow, that horse dead yet? LakeSuperiorView Jul 2018 #71

KG was one of six Democratic senators who coordinated the initial call for him to resign oberliner Jul 2018 #92

Don't confuse them with facts Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #114

"Gillibrand was the first woman in the Senate to call on Franken to quit, Demit Jul 2018 #148

Sounds strangely like a whataboutism. LakeSuperiorView Jul 2018 #155

This x 1000 Ferrets are Cool Jul 2018 #57

Yes ... spot on. That extends as well to the fear of being labeled socialists because we want KPN Jul 2018 #58

Same here kcr Jul 2018 #36

MSM and even here heaven05 Jul 2018 #41

this kind of shit will keep happening as long as the left/dems ignore talk radio and certainot Jul 2018 #51

+1! KPN Jul 2018 #65

Yes! 1000x's!!!!! Tumbulu Jul 2018 #80

Republicans run circles around us because of stuff like this IronLionZion Jul 2018 #63

IDK. Nobody has any kind of "right" to be a Senator Recursion Jul 2018 #164

First he didn't hold office "by right" but by the expressed democratic "viewpoint" of the voters. hlthe2b Jul 2018 #166

He had the "right" to be Senator by virtue of all those, including me, who voted for him. scarletwoman Jul 2018 #184

This dflprincess Jul 2018 #194

the best senator we had. i miss him. JI7 Jul 2018 #9

How so? Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #72

Find the links yourself. Just google his grilling of perjurer Sessions. brush Jul 2018 #98

OK That is one thing Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #99

Asking for others to provide links proves nothing when you can easily google... brush Jul 2018 #102

That's called moving the goalposts. Demit Jul 2018 #150

And don't forget disndat Jul 2018 #162

That's right. He knew how to cut to the quick with his questioning of lying repugs. brush Jul 2018 #167

There will be a job opening Soxfan58 Jul 2018 #12

Franken/Harris. That's the ticket. Funtatlaguy Jul 2018 #14

Yes Soxfan58 Jul 2018 #16

love Al miss Al steventh Jul 2018 #23

Didn't know that about Harris Funtatlaguy Jul 2018 #27

Oh, I made my feelings clear to Brown. True Blue American Jul 2018 #34

Harris: I believe the best thing for Senator Franken to do is step down. oberliner Jul 2018 #47

Keep trying. Still not working as you can tell from the REC count. nt USALiberal Jul 2018 #189

Every GOP Senator defends Trump, so they are correct also? nt SFnomad Jul 2018 #190

Or Franken/Warren -- I'd love to see either of those pairings. KPN Jul 2018 #67

Franken was railroaded without due process. NurseJackie Jul 2018 #17

Did someone put a gun to his head Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #81

Metaphorically, Yes ProfessorGAC Jul 2018 #135

Metaphorically??? Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #136

A gun? Oh, please. GMAFB! NurseJackie Jul 2018 #147

he should run again, we need him back scarytomcat Jul 2018 #18

When can we get him back, Governor of Minnesota at least? marble falls Jul 2018 #19

Our Party's image already WAS clean--as was Al Franken's DFW Jul 2018 #22

Well said! nt c-rational Jul 2018 #62

I miss him, too! nt Heartstrings Jul 2018 #25

Given what happened to Sen Franken Docreed2003 Jul 2018 #28

+1 dalton99a Jul 2018 #38

Yes! And, jimmy jordan. Cha Jul 2018 #48

Only Democrats fold like cheap card players RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #174

Al Franken - a casualty of friendly fire. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2018 #29

Like to think of it as jumping on a grenade to save his comrades bigbrother05 Jul 2018 #39

Kamala Harris called on Franken to resign, as did Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker, and Bernie Sanders oberliner Jul 2018 #50

Ok, ok. We get the idea from your many posts. You have it in for Harris. brush Jul 2018 #153

When are we ever going to learn that eating our own is a huge minus -- for us and KPN Jul 2018 #74

I'm still stunned Harker Jul 2018 #37

Come back Al!! zentrum Jul 2018 #46

i hope he runs again samnsara Jul 2018 #49

I am still angry and very sad about what happened to Al. pazzyanne Jul 2018 #52

One of our strongest voices.. silenced by our own. mountain grammy Jul 2018 #53

I saw him interviewed yesterday on WCCO. MineralMan Jul 2018 #55

Well said! KPN Jul 2018 #77

Thank you. MineralMan Jul 2018 #106

The irony of the anti-Gillibrand rants in these threads is always entertaining... brooklynite Jul 2018 #64

If 2016 was any indication... yallerdawg Jul 2018 #69

The irony is that she is not a senator that I vote for. pazzyanne Jul 2018 #73

But nobody venting at her here will claim she doesn't deserve to be re-elected to the Senate... brooklynite Jul 2018 #76

I think my post explains my position. She is not my senator, Al was! pazzyanne Jul 2018 #79

No, we won't. It is not our decision who the people of New York MineralMan Jul 2018 #122

Wrong! She put self-interest over principle first, and any partisan advantage she may KPN Jul 2018 #82

So, you're saying that an unprincipled person like this SHOULD or SHOULD NOT be re-elected? brooklynite Jul 2018 #110

I'm saying I won't vote for her in a primary if she does run in 2020 -- and, as I'm in a deeply KPN Jul 2018 #129

Ahhh...you do realize most of the posters here critical of Gillebrand... brush Jul 2018 #86

One does not have to be a constituent to have an opinion on who should get elected... brooklynite Jul 2018 #107

OK, mine is she was a big reason we lost a strong Dem senator... brush Jul 2018 #117

I could care less what you think about the 2020 Presidential Election... brooklynite Jul 2018 #125

I just told you. It's about keeping our Dem numbers in the Senate. brush Jul 2018 #142

The thing is that she isn't a Senator from my state. MineralMan Jul 2018 #113

So, you won't be voting for Klobuchar this Fall? brooklynite Jul 2018 #149

I will be voting for her. She will be the Democrat on the ballot. MineralMan Jul 2018 #157

Why Kirsten gets a lot of heat cubbies01 Jul 2018 #70

Provide proof please Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #78

Give me a break cubbies01 Jul 2018 #140

Thanks for admitting you don't have any proof Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #143

I did no such thing cubbies01 Jul 2018 #159

+100! KPN Jul 2018 #87

Al and his family were very firm that he was not going to run for President wishstar Jul 2018 #93

Don't confuse them with facts. Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #104

She had just introduced an anti-sexual harrassment bill in Congress oberliner Jul 2018 #126

Poetic justice that Gillibrand's presidential dreams are cooked. BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #130

She miscalculated, to her detriment. MineralMan Jul 2018 #133

100% cubbies01 Jul 2018 #141

Yes. It's a valid question of her judgment. Demit Jul 2018 #156

What I found especially craven about Gillibrand sacrificing Al to her ambitions dflprincess Jul 2018 #195

Yeah, I wish Al was still there, too. PatrickforO Jul 2018 #85

He should still be there karin_sj Jul 2018 #90

Meanwhile Gym Jordan is still in office SHRED Jul 2018 #105

He is a good man, and a great human being. Nitram Jul 2018 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #127

President janterry Jul 2018 #139

What Gillibrand did to Sen. Franken reminds me of... drbtg1 Jul 2018 #151

She led the charge, but so many (too many) followed RVN VET71 Jul 2018 #185

Yes, Sanders and Warren were eventually among those calling for his resignation SFnomad Jul 2018 #187

Others followed Lieberman too, just like Gillibrand, but I don't see the others... drbtg1 Aug 2018 #196

Come back Al! workinclasszero Jul 2018 #160

Whelp cubbies01 Jul 2018 #163

Post removed Post removed Jul 2018 #168

Senator Al was one of the best things to happen in America librechik Jul 2018 #169

he should not have resigned. barbtries Jul 2018 #172

Post removed Post removed Jul 2018 #175

He should run again. Let the voters decide if they think his comedy photo on the plane Vinca Jul 2018 #176

We miss him, too. The Senate needs him. Maybe he can run again. May have to get a new leader in the Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #178

Don't call it a comeback! Marcuse Jul 2018 #186

And, we're missing this guy because ROGER F*ING STONE decided we had to be rid of him? ProfessorPlum Jul 2018 #191