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hunter

(38,299 posts)
17. Trouble is once they are "cut off" then what?
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 07:44 PM
Dec 2017

Street drugs are easy, or if you've got money, scam providers are easy too. Witness Rush Limbaugh living, or Michael Jackson dead...

How do we reduce harm?

It's not working in the U.S.A. because we usually regard addiction as a moral failing not a medical problem.

In the U.S.A. it seems "hitting bottom" has to be a death or near death experience, whereas in more civilized nations it's just a crappy room, supervision and therapy, and whatever it takes to get you through the day, methadone, a few beers, whatever.

We'd be a much more humane society if we accepted the fact that some people are going to be living at very minimal levels of social functionality, years even, before they can move on to better lives, and that a very small minority will never overcome their addictions, but that it's no reason to wish any hell upon them.

By virtue of our humanity, we all deserve a safe place to simply exist.



They have hospitals, where addicts can get help. shenmue Dec 2017 #1
Years ago, if I remember correctly, it was the then East Germany that led Sophia4 Dec 2017 #2
An awful lot of the homeless are opioid addicts Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2017 #5
Is it only the US medical system? malaise Dec 2017 #3
There is this Bear Creek Dec 2017 #20
Excellent point malaise Dec 2017 #23
I don't know about the population distribution elsewhere loyalsister Dec 2017 #4
I wonder to what degree doctor-shopping is tolerated in other countries. Aristus Dec 2017 #6
i hate to break it to you, but you're probably hurting more people than you're helping. you've alrea TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #12
Just over an hour. Took longer than I thought it would. Aristus Dec 2017 #14
Trouble is once they are "cut off" then what? hunter Dec 2017 #17
You are absolutely right but I am not sure that is within Aristus ability to solve stevenleser Dec 2017 #27
You're right about that. For cortisone shots and other comprehensive musculoskeletal Aristus Dec 2017 #30
This is a nightmare and what is wrong with society. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #28
I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I was contradicting myself. Aristus Dec 2017 #31
Oh boy, where do I start? cannabis_flower Dec 2017 #21
The first guy was an idiot. Aristus Dec 2017 #24
I think all of them except for Dr. Hume cannabis_flower Dec 2017 #32
If tumeric and ginger helped... robbob Dec 2017 #25
I might look into that. cannabis_flower Dec 2017 #33
It reached Canada Sanity Claws Dec 2017 #7
More people are going to die from opioids in Canada than car accidents. applegrove Dec 2017 #8
We are suffering from an Opioid epidemic because TheDebbieDee Dec 2017 #9
who cares? i'm sick of hearing about this non-crisis. now let me go back to my suffering, because i TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #10
It has - Russia, in particular oberliner Dec 2017 #11
Because big pharm made big bucks tavernier Dec 2017 #13
It sure has in Calgary and Vancouver Canada Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2017 #15
Russia seems to have a bigger drug problem in general than we do. Canada is going to be hit hard by stevenleser Dec 2017 #16
Because they have actual safety nets in the form of rational health care systems. alarimer Dec 2017 #18
In a conversation yesterday with a friend who is a nurse, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #19
Xanax and Clonopin were the hardest things I've ever kicked NightWatcher Dec 2017 #26
I can see why it is. roamer65 Dec 2017 #29
Most of those countries have opiates OTC Nevernose Dec 2017 #22
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