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Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:51 PM

 

Amy Klobuchar & Pete Buttigieg endorsing Joe Biden: absolutely devastating news for Elizabeth Warren

Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg are endorsing Joe Biden the day before Super Tuesday
Both of those candidates have built constituencies that also love Elizabeth Warren
Their decision to endorse could throw a lot of support Warren was angling for in the direction of Biden.


https://www.businessinsider.com/klobuchar-and-buttigieg-endorsing-biden-is-devastating-for-warren-2020-3?r=US&IR=T

Amy Klobuchar has ended her campaign, making her the third candidate in as many days to exit the 2020 Democratic primary after billionaire Tom Steyer and former South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg dropped following their disappointing results in the South Carolina primary.

Buttigieg and Steyer ended their campaigns ahead of Super Tuesday, the enormously consequential primary when approximately 35% of the entire national primary's delegates are awarded over the course of a single day. But they — at first — neglected to endorse, effectively allowing their backers to navigate the remainder of the primary without guidance from their preferred candidate. Klobuchar, however, decided to endorse former Vice President Joe Biden immediately after dropping out, and shortly after that announcement it was reported that Buttigieg too would be endorsing Biden.

For the past several months, Insider has been conducting a recurring SurveyMonkey Audience poll to track the state of the 2020 Democratic primary field. You can download every poll here, down to the individual respondent data. (Read more about how the Insider Democratic primary tracker works here).

We've been asking respondents to select from the list of contenders who they would be satisfied with as nominee, allowing them to select as many as possible. This lets us figure out what the overlapping coalitions of the Democratic electorate look like, to see who's competing for the same delegates.

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much more at the link







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Reply Amy Klobuchar & Pete Buttigieg endorsing Joe Biden: absolutely devastating news for Elizabeth Warren (Original post)
Celerity Mar 2020 OP
George II Mar 2020 #1
mahina Mar 2020 #2
BeyondGeography Mar 2020 #3
Bettie Mar 2020 #5
Celerity Mar 2020 #15
Celerity Mar 2020 #6
BeyondGeography Mar 2020 #7
Celerity Mar 2020 #8
BeyondGeography Mar 2020 #11
Celerity Mar 2020 #13
BeyondGeography Mar 2020 #16
Celerity Mar 2020 #17
zackymilly Mar 2020 #23
NCjack Mar 2020 #4
blm Mar 2020 #30
Hortensis Mar 2020 #9
thesquanderer Mar 2020 #10
Celerity Mar 2020 #12
barbtries Mar 2020 #14
Celerity Mar 2020 #19
barbtries Mar 2020 #22
Tweedy Mar 2020 #20
barbtries Mar 2020 #21
Tweedy Mar 2020 #18
MoonlitKnight Mar 2020 #24
Raine Mar 2020 #25
blm Mar 2020 #26
Celerity Mar 2020 #27
Fiendish Thingy Mar 2020 #28
Celerity Mar 2020 #29

Response to Celerity (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:52 PM

1. Thanks for the reality and sensibility.

 

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:52 PM

2. Satirical headline?

 

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:54 PM

3. lol...but not so much for Pete and Amy?

 

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:56 PM

5. If you aren't an old white man

 

you're supposed to get out of their playground.
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Response to Bettie (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:30 PM

15. My candidate since he declared was a Millennial gay man, so that is a non sequitur in regards to me

 

personally.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:05 PM

6. They did what was right for the good of the Party. I'm not at all calling for Warren to drop out BTW

 

She definitely draws far more votes away from Bernie than she does from Biden.

I am only saying that she has no path, has not had one for months. She may not win a single state if she does not win in Massachusetts.

I also think that Biden will, quite possibly now hit the 15% level there (MA) and thus get delegates, which is bad news for Bernie. I think Biden will now have that happen in multiple states, including the big one, my state of voting registration, CA.



I want newer polls from MA to get a better handle on it, but do not think there will be many more, if any at all.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:12 PM

7. We'll see...Warren's still in the game and they're waving at crowds with Joe

 

Warren is at least in a position to matter at the convention. As a supporter I’m glad for that.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:16 PM

8. as we have this conversation, live on MSNBC, they just said her campaign admitted they have no path,

 

but that they think they can win at a brokered convention.

https://streamfare.net/msnbc_live_stream.html

I do not see that happening at all.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:22 PM

11. Me neither, but her delegates will matter

 

And look, she’s competing against very old guys with health (Sanders) and consistency (Biden) issues. Do you expect them to say that?
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:28 PM

13. I am not anti Warren in the slighest, I just think she has no path. I would take her over Bloomberg

 

in a hot minute.

I goes without saying that I prefer her 10000 X to Bernie.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #13)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:31 PM

16. She helps both Bernie and Biden re Bloomberg

 

who shouldn’t be our nominee anyway. I think it’s a better race with her in it and she’ll definitely do the right thing (ie whatever it takes to beat Trump) in the end.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:34 PM

17. I agree with this, I have never called for her to drop out, although I can see it happening. She did

 

however get a massive boost today via the EMILY's List endorsement. The money will pour in from that.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 08:57 PM

23. I just saw Bloomberg saying he thinks he can win at a brokered convention too.n/t

 

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:56 PM

4. Tomorrow in SupTue, I will vote for Elizabeth Warren. nt

 

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Response to NCjack (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 11:40 PM

30. Voted early in NC mountains. Warren.

 

So did baby blm
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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:19 PM

9. Biased clickbait headline. Warren knew this was coming, she knows

 

she won't be the nominee, and her decision is all about what point SHE will do the same thing as the others. Throw her support to Biden.

Btw, I keep reminding, but for those who incredibly mistakenly imagine Warren is some female version of Sanders anti-Democratic class-warfare radical, she's NOT. Back in 2015, if Biden was going to run he wanted Elizabeth Warren for his running mate to work with him do great things. She met with him, and left the door to that open should he run.

Well, Biden is running now. Is the door still open for both of them? We don't know.

What we do know is that Warren is an honorable and principled Democrat who will do her best to make sure the anti-Democratic Party, Russia-supported candidate Putin and the Republicans are pinning their hopes on doesn't become our nominee.

Strategy.
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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:19 PM

10. More evidence that it's not about lanes. More Amy/Pete supporters would be satisfied with Bernie...

 

...than dissatisfied with him as the nominee (a majority, in fact).

And moderate Bloomberg ranks higher on the dissatisfied side than the satisfied side.
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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:22 PM

12. I do not consider Bloomberg a person fit to sit in the WH under our banner, UNLESS he was the only

 

option to Trump or Sanders. Thankfully there are other choices, Warren included.
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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:28 PM

14. i know i am fairly devastated.

 

i'm voting for her tomorrow regardless. hate the way she's been erased.
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Response to barbtries (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:41 PM

19. Vote for who you believe in, I voted for Pete via CA overseas ballot in January, & Warren draws more

 

from Bernie by far than she does from Biden.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 08:56 PM

22. you're right

 

and I definitely will, tomorrow in fact.
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Response to barbtries (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:43 PM

20. Don't be

 

I just voted for her. She is hands down the best candidate remaining, although all would be better than the current occupant.

She took on Mayor Buttigieg rather handily. Knew that wasn't going anywhere. She also knocked Senator Klobuchar for her lack of a real healthcare plan. I do think the two senators are friendly.

This news did not surprise me.

Senator Warren has also confronted every corruption out there. It is unsurprising that she "got erased" as you put it. Yet, she persists and her plans persist with her.

We need to vote for her if only to make certain that portfolio of corruption destruction survives to persist (& become law!) after Election Day.

And only 4 states have voted. It isn't over yet.

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Response to Tweedy (Reply #20)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 08:55 PM

21. thank you.

 

tomorrow i will vote for her. when november comes i'll vote for the democrat.
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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:36 PM

18. Really?

 

Did you think this was mysterious ?

I figured the moment I read the news.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 09:37 PM

24. LoL

 

She is the one who knocked out Bloomberg.
She is the one who knocked out PowerPoint and Post-it.
She is coming for Bernie and Joe.

Persist like a butterfly and sting like a bee.
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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 09:55 PM

25. I just went from Amy to Warren

 

so Warren gained a vote.
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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:29 PM

26. Kind of odd title

 

It doesn’t discourage me, though, even if it WAS written to push Warren out.
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Response to blm (Reply #26)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:33 PM

27. I have never suggested Warren drop out, but I cannot vouch for the author's mind

 

Warren pulls more from Bernie than Biden, so I have no issues overall.

She will run into a money crunch very soon though, unless she really overperforms today (It is already Tuesday here)
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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:36 PM

28. Warren could end up holding all the cards strategically

 

She will get a decent chunk of delegates tomorrow, and if it is enough to put either or both Biden and Bernie over the majority threshold, that will give her a lot of leverage regarding the VP pick.
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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #28)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

29. on the 2nd ballot, the magic number goes way up, from 1991 to 2375

 

If Bernie rollis in with say 1600 delegates, he still will need 775 or so to win. At most he will get 150 to 200 via the the SD's.

that leaves him around 600 short.

Warren will have nowhere near that in delegates. She will probably end up with around 250 to 300 or so. Plus nowhere near all of hers will go to Bernie unless she endorses him (and even then many still will not), which is political suicide, as the maths simply do not work for Sanders, unless he somehow, nightmarishly ends up with 1991 before the convention, which is never going to happen.
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