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Celerity

(43,048 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:37 AM Feb 2020

Sanders team leads in pushing idea of party selection conspiracies

Let the whining begin. Oh, too late. It’s already started. The Democratic candidates for president are complaining that they wuz robbed.

https://vtdigger.org/2020/02/09/margolis-sanders-team-leads-in-pushing-idea-of-party-selection-conspiracies/

Worse, the conspiratorialists are at it, claiming not only that they wuz robbed but they are going to be robbed again because the powers that be are out to get them. Relax, everyone. The powers that be have very little power.

Both the whining and the conspiracy-mongering are coming from a few campaigns. As soon as it was clear that Joe Biden had done poorly in the Iowa precinct caucuses, someone in his campaign mumbled something about going to court to stop the state party from releasing the results. After Pete Buttigieg won (or co-won?) in Iowa, a senior official of Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s campaign said a woman with Buttigieg’s background wouldn’t have done as well.

One of those wonderfully vague political statements that can be neither confirmed nor refuted. But as usual most of the whining and most of the conspiracy delusions come from supporters of Vermont’s own Bernie Sanders, and this time from the candidate himself.

This whining is an outgrowth of a delusion now almost four years old: that Sanders didn’t win the 2016 nomination because the Democratic Party’s “establishment” (never defined) and specifically the Democratic National Committee (DNC) “rigged” the race against him.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
1. People should see the job Turner, Gray, and Sirota are doing on twitter.....
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:52 AM
Feb 2020

....but don't say a word against any of them, you'll be blocked in a New York minute.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Celerity

(43,048 posts)
2. I saw the bald-faced lie that Turner posted on Twitter about Pete and opioids
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:55 AM
Feb 2020

Thank you for exposing that.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
3. That's rich, considering what the Vermont Democratic party does for him
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:00 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Me.

(35,454 posts)
4. Total Disgrace
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:22 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
5. If their team doesn't win, there's a conspiracy
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:23 AM
Feb 2020

and by the way, everyone else is evil for some reason or another.

Everyone needs to remember that, eventually, we all need to come together.

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Yavin4

(35,406 posts)
6. If Sanders' campaign cannot overcome "DNC rigging the elections", how will it ever be
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:26 AM
Feb 2020

able to overcome Republican rigging the general election? Or, if he becomes president, how will he overcome obstruction in the congress?

This is what angers me about Bernie. Okay, yes, the DNC is putting its thumb on the scale against you. What are you going to do about it? What is your strategy?

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
7. It doesn't really make sense....
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:36 AM
Feb 2020

If indeed the DNC is capable of "stopping his candidacy before it even starts," what chance does he have against the GOP?

How does this premature, unfounded accusation support his claim that once he's in the Oval Office, that the masses - conservative and liberal - will rise up for him, and turn on those politicians who oppose his policies, thus giving them no choice but to support all his policies, and usher in a new age of income equality, health care reform and and end to bigotry?

Where are these conservative and liberal masses now that would certainly overwhelm and defeat any alleged "interference" by the DNC? If the DNC is that all- powerful, why do any GOP candidates ever win?

One would think that all he needs to do is to get his message out there - which he has - and there would be no question of his aura of inevitability...

If he is so easily "robbed" of the nomination, how would he ever be strong enough to deploy that bipartisan "revolution" that would prevent him being "robbed" of delivering his promises by the GOP?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Yavin4

(35,406 posts)
8. Put simply, if Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and Tom Perez can stop you...
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:57 AM
Feb 2020

then you really should just get out of the game.

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awesomerwb1

(4,264 posts)
9. Pick one
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:18 PM
Feb 2020

1- It's "the Establishment" (unspecified)
2- It's the DNC (unspecified)
3- It's the "deep State" (unspecified)
4- Hillary

Those Sanders surrogates are just awful. I would not trust whoever hired them (again) to run a lemonade stand or sell Girl Scout cookies.


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krissey

(1,205 posts)
10. Every state he lost, cheating. Every state won? Nothing.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:00 PM
Feb 2020
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