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Ignorant people should not be voting (Original Post) RhodeIslandOne Jan 2020 OP
Epistocracy? Jim__ Jan 2020 #1
I oppose a ban on stupid or ignorant voters Cicada Jan 2020 #2
Are you suggesting we institute a poll test? MichMan Jan 2020 #3
Just admit this person should be admitted as a possible stroke victim RhodeIslandOne Jan 2020 #5
Ann Coulter once obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2020 #4
She'd be all for this one voting RhodeIslandOne Jan 2020 #6
Really greytdemocrat Jan 2020 #7
You're right RhodeIslandOne Jan 2020 #8
 

Jim__

(14,075 posts)
1. Epistocracy?
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:54 PM
Jan 2020

In Jason Brennan's book, Against Democracy, he argues that power should reside with the knowledgeable:

...

In this trenchant book, Brennan argues that democracy should be judged by its results―and the results are not good enough. Just as defendants have a right to a fair trial, citizens have a right to competent government. But democracy is the rule of the ignorant and the irrational, and it all too often falls short. Furthermore, no one has a fundamental right to any share of political power, and exercising political power does most of us little good. On the contrary, a wide range of social science research shows that political participation and democratic deliberation actually tend to make people worse―more irrational, biased, and mean. Given this grim picture, Brennan argues that a new system of government―epistocracy, the rule of the knowledgeable―may be better than democracy, and that it's time to experiment and find out.

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Of course, I think we all know the problems that leads to.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
2. I oppose a ban on stupid or ignorant voters
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:16 PM
Jan 2020

There are good reasons to ban them but there are good reasons to keep them. Voting has value not just to get the right results but also to make people accept the government as legitimate. Voting for all is essential for legitimacy. Also the dumb are just as deserving as the smart so their needs and desires deserve a shot too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MichMan

(11,910 posts)
3. Are you suggesting we institute a poll test?
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:37 PM
Jan 2020

History would not be kind

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
5. Just admit this person should be admitted as a possible stroke victim
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:09 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

obnoxiousdrunk

(2,910 posts)
4. Ann Coulter once
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:55 PM
Jan 2020

suggested woman shouldn't be given the right to vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
6. She'd be all for this one voting
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:10 AM
Jan 2020

A Forever Trump

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

greytdemocrat

(3,299 posts)
7. Really
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:31 AM
Jan 2020

Misguided/stupid post. But whatever...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
8. You're right
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:36 AM
Jan 2020

Everything she said is stupid.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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