Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWaPo: Kamala Harris hits a home run
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/06/28/kamala-harris-hits-home-run/?utm_term=.dd7d75bb07bfThursdays debate provided the first time to see several top presidential candidates former vice president Joe Biden, Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.), Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg as well as an assortment of lesser known and, in some cases, improbable figures face off on the same stage. The result was, at times, explosive and surprising, a tough contest between several tough competitors. Harris, not unlike several middle-tier contenders last night, had the chance to mightily improve her standing (as former HUD secretary Julián Castro and Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey did during Wednesdays debate). And boy did she. She was the clear standout on the stage, mixing righteous anger, biographical stories and prosecutorial toughness. She demonstrated just how her toughness and prosecutorial experience could be wielded not just against Democrats but eventually against President Trump.
From the first answer sketching out her economic plans to stepping in to chide her bickering colleagues (America does not want to witness a food fight, they want to know how were going to put food on their table), to a devastating attack on Bidens record on busing (invoking her own experience as a child bused to integrated schools), to separating herself from the deportation policies of the Obama administration, and to chastising Buttigieg for not integrating South Bends police force, she was virtually pitch-perfect. Though she put up her hand for Medicare-for-all, she wasnt grilled on details; instead, she told a story of mothers sitting in a parking lot afraid to go into the emergency room. By the end of the debate, I was left wishing for a Harris standoff with Elizabeth Warren.
Biden, after some miscues in the weeks leading up to the debate, had to show he was with it and ready for a rough-and-tumble fight. His strength is the amount he relishes taking on Trump and getting under the presidents skin. He started capably by defending Obamacare over Medicare-for-all, and rattling off his plans on education. Ironically, it was Sanders not Biden who came under fire on policy grounds. With so many voices on the stage backing his public option, Biden never was directly challenged by Sanders on Sanderss signature issue.
As the debate went on, however, the former vice president ran into trouble, most dramatically and painfully at the hands of Harris on the issue of race. Insisting that he favored letting localities decide on busing was a bad misstep because the discrimination at issue, in many cases, requires federal intervention. Biden soldiered on but real damage had been done. He defended his vote for the Iraq War and then pivoted to his positions on Afghanistan and pulling troops out from Iraq. He stumbled again, however, on guns mangling a punchline when he said that our opponents were gun manufacturers and not the National Rifle Association. What Biden meant to say was that our opponents arent gun owners.
Mostly, he suffered in comparison to brighter, sharper voices. Was this fatal to Bidens chances? No, but it suggested he is a very, very vulnerable front-runner. He also got lucky: Sanders had a poor night as well.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Indeed!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,755 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Can be "over the top" depending on who those Truth and Facts come from. Just amazing.....
Kamala did a GREAT JOB this evening!! Thanks Kamala!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cbelle1039
(52 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Fund Public K-12 Schools. Yes or No?
Did the Federal Government Cooperatively fund Public Schools with the States in the 1960's and 1970's? Yes or No?
Was Joe Biden a Congressman in the late 1960's and 1970's? Yes or No?
Do City Council's Manage and/or Operate Public K-12 Schools or do School Boards handle this? City Council's or School Boards.?
That's all. We'll wait....
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
proud patriot
(100,705 posts)his response could have bee(n) a lot better IMO edited for dropped (n)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(43,316 posts)Last edited Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:30 AM - Edit history (2)
and trying to parse out and separate them (the NRA) from the gun manufactures. The NRA IS a fucking enemy at multiple levels, including being a Russian money laundering political slush fund for the Rethugs.
Biden is far from a sure thing, and far from the best to put up against Rump in a debate. One on one, Harris would tear circa 2019-20 Biden apart in 9 out 10 debates. She is a relentless and hyper-intelligent person and a superbly-skilled prosecuter starting to enter the peak of her intellectual and political powers. Biden is starting to manifest the effects of getting closer to 80 years of age (Biden would be in his 80's for over 75% of his two terms, from 2022 to 2029.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Full of Facts. Thank you!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skittles
(153,149 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)a party of state's rights. Good for her
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
PatrickforO
(14,570 posts)I agree with this assessment of the debate. Good article.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
proud patriot
(100,705 posts)Mayor Pete was pretty awesome too
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(43,316 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
proud patriot
(100,705 posts)and if it comes to it she should replace Barr and Pete either sec of Defense or State
I kinda like Tulsi for Sec of Defense .. Regardless a great night for Democrats
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(43,316 posts)4-Star Admiral William McRaven (US Spec Ops commander and the one who led the Bin Laden kill raid) as Sec of Defence or VP
Bullock (I so wish he would run for Senate, but he sure doesn't seem to want to) maybe for VP, if not McRaven, or maybe Julian Castro, or a wild card, Senator Chris Murphy from CT.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
proud patriot
(100,705 posts)picture Homer thinking about Donuts
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)As a white guy pushing 60 I"m not going to second guess her opinions on another candidate looking back to when he worked with segregationist senators to kill busing as a postive. It is not her job to defend Biden on this.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden