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malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 01:05 PM Feb 2014

Why a woman who is not a feminist is a coward.

Rights are not a sweetmeat granted to a person at the whim of an all-powerful tyrant, rights are qualities that inhere in us by the very nature of being human. Thus a right cannot be "given" nor "taken," though a right may, under sufficient threat of violence (psychological or physical, it makes no difference) be withheld or denied.

At root, I see feminism as a protest against the denial of right. Big rights and little rights, but overall and most especially what should be obviously a right for all humans, the right to the integrity of one's own person. And a person who would willingly surrender a fundamental right, is by very definition craven. For if we will not fight for our rights, for what will we fight?

The careful reader, however, might just detect the hidden consequence of this thought: for if rights inhere in each and all by virtue of being human, then any human who will not struggle against the denial of right is craven, not just any woman. So I find I have mistitled my little rant indeed. It should read "Why anyone who is not a feminist is a coward."

-- Mal

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Why a woman who is not a feminist is a coward. (Original Post) malthaussen Feb 2014 OP
breakthrough moment, right there, Mal. Love it. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #1
Oh, gracious, Tuesday, I've thought that for years... malthaussen Feb 2014 #2
gawd, yeah Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #3
Well there is a LOT of indoctrination ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #4
Sure, and let's not even talk about religion. malthaussen Feb 2014 #5
Hair and lingerie are matters of aesthetics, though, not natural jurisprudence. malthaussen Feb 2014 #7
You have my gratitude discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2014 #6
I actually wish you would change the subject line to reflect your true intent = Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #8
K&R nt cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #9

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
1. breakthrough moment, right there, Mal. Love it.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 01:12 PM
Feb 2014

"Why anyone who is not a feminist is a coward."


getting it. you are.

love seeing a light bulb moment.

epiphany.

awesome.

word.

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
2. Oh, gracious, Tuesday, I've thought that for years...
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 01:15 PM
Feb 2014

... just feeling ruminant. But I'm glad you like the post, I think it is nicely succinct and a little provocative, eh?

-- Mal

ismnotwasm

(41,967 posts)
4. Well there is a LOT of indoctrination
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 02:48 PM
Feb 2014

And your bold title has no doubt just pissed off the 'I not a feminist but' persons who believe feminism is mostly about body hair and lingerie, and not about basic human rights and equality for women everywhere in the world. A worthy, overwhelming task, that every feminist participates in to greater or lesser degrees.

Cowards? Sometimes, but I never underestimate the human ability to mentally arrange truths to make their thinking comfortable, and unchallenged.

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
5. Sure, and let's not even talk about religion.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 02:56 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:06 PM - Edit history (1)

Religious indoctrination is so severe in some cases that I am also willing to cut slack to those who will not fight for their rights because they're told they don't really have any.

And other indoctrination aside, a lot of people who talk about rights don't really know what they're talking about. The concept does float around that rights are something granted, not inherent, and as soon as you open that genie bottle, you place the feminist in the position of supplicant.

Of course the irony is that rights are a polite fiction to begin with, and the people with the guns are gonna do to you what they want, any time they want. There is no such thing as an inalienable right, but as long as we're going to pretend there is, let's have 'em apply to everybody, eh? Regardless of plumbing or pigmentation or whom they dream of at night.

-- Mal

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
7. Hair and lingerie are matters of aesthetics, though, not natural jurisprudence.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:26 AM
Feb 2014

Although I could put you to sleep with my weird theories about how aesthetics and ethics are linked, and that beauty and humanism are identical.

-- Mal

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,476 posts)
6. You have my gratitude
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 07:45 PM
Feb 2014

Churchill said it well: "If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

Some people would say that we earn or are granted rights. That's just a lot of bull. Others say that rights are attributes of our humanity. I can't deny that but rights are more than that. To say that a right is as much a part of the human condition as is having a nose or a left index finger isn't wrong but it hardly covers the idea. To respect the rights of another, places that person as important and equal to yourself. When will people realize that there's not much that feels better than giving to another, and that giving respect costs nothing and gives so much to both parties?

Thanks for this OP and have a great week.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
8. I actually wish you would change the subject line to reflect your true intent =
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:04 PM
Feb 2014
"Why anyone who is not a feminist is a coward."






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