Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

ismnotwasm

(41,965 posts)
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 02:56 PM Apr 2013

These 5 Women Came Out Long Before Jason Collins

(Note; I in NO way want to reduce the impact of Jason Collins, but it's very telling how homophobia in sports has lead to him being the first professional male to come out, while most haven't heard of, or care about these women)


While NBA player Jason Collins' "coming out" party is just beginning — and make no mistake, this is huge for the NBA and male professional sports everywhere — several female professional athletes have already publicly embraced their sexuality. The WNBA, UFC, Women's Professional Soccer, and many more women's leagues with "major" male counterparts have welcomed out LGBT athletes for years, though they have not garnered the same magnitude of respect as males.

The reasoning seems simple enough — NBA or NFL athletes, for example, face much more backlash from millions of fans (and players) who simply assume that there's no way the "tough" and "masculine" guys they watch on TV are gay. Women athletes, on the other hand, don't get as much publicity in anything they do, much less coming out as LGBT.

Here are 5 openly LGBT current professional women athletes you might (or might not) know:

1. Brittney Griner

The Baylor basketball phenom known for her height and her dunks acknowledged in a series of interviews following her #1 WNBA draft pick that she is a lesbian. (Seimone Augustus and Ann Wauters are also current/recent openly lesbian WNBA players.) Griner has spoken about being bullied, both growing up and even as she gained popularity at Baylor. But she said she has always been open about her sexuality, and in doing so is a perfect role model for young athletes of any gender who are uncomfortable about coming out.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/38577/these-5-women-came-out-long-before-jason-collins
12 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
These 5 Women Came Out Long Before Jason Collins (Original Post) ismnotwasm Apr 2013 OP
I think it's more than the obscurity of women's sports. StrayKat Apr 2013 #1
I have to agree ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #3
You gave me food for thought. StrayKat Apr 2013 #7
What I mean is that pornography designated for lesbians ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #11
They don't count! ..... Little Star Apr 2013 #2
For years CalFresh Apr 2013 #4
Interesting point. ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #5
Maybe it's more about macho culture. redqueen Apr 2013 #6
Time will tell how this is received ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #9
I figure homophobia is going the way of racism. redqueen Apr 2013 #10
True. :) StrayKat Apr 2013 #8
No disrespect to the women athletes mentioned here, but Martina Navratilova and Billie Jean King geek tragedy Apr 2013 #12

StrayKat

(570 posts)
1. I think it's more than the obscurity of women's sports.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 03:26 PM
Apr 2013

I think there is an widespread assumption that elite female athletes are more likely than not to be lesbian anyway.

I'm surprised Sheryl Swoopes isn't on the list. Although she stopped playing 2 years ago, she still coaches, and came out while she was still playing and before anyone mentioned in the article.

ismnotwasm

(41,965 posts)
3. I have to agree
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:07 PM
Apr 2013

What I find problematic is how difficult it is for male professional athletes to come out, because of gender perception. As if Gay males can't be 'masculine enough' to play professional sports, while for women its practically a default designation,whether true or false.

Actually strong women in any progression are often accused of being Gay--like there's something wrong with it. It's homophobic of course, but Gay women aren't seen as threatening, perhaps, in part because their sexuality has been co-opted by porn.

StrayKat

(570 posts)
7. You gave me food for thought.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:40 PM
Apr 2013

I agree with the first paragraph, but I'll have to think about that last paragraph.

Actually strong women in any progression are often accused of being Gay--like there's something wrong with it. It's homophobic of course, but Gay women aren't seen as threatening. . .

When I read this I first thought of Hillary Clinton and Oprah Winfrey who have both had gay rumors floated about them and are both perceived as threatening. Janet Reno is another who comes to mind.

. . .in part because their sexuality has been co-opted by porn.

Is this bad or good? Has porn somehow had a hidden benefit in this case? Or would it be better if women were seen as threatening?




ismnotwasm

(41,965 posts)
11. What I mean is that pornography designated for lesbians
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:58 PM
Apr 2013

Is purchased most often by the 18 to 34 male demographic. (If I recall correctly) Subsuming another's sexuality, in any way reduces threat. So calling a women 'lesbian' is a way of both insulting her and reducing her power, because in part, lesbian imagery has been co-opted by straight males.

This is hopefully changing. I'm one of those who believes that Gay rights are in sister and brotherhood with women's rights, because of patriarchal gender perceptions and demands.

 

CalFresh

(99 posts)
4. For years
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:27 PM
Apr 2013

we have had gay men in diving and ice skating. I guess it's only big news if they play with balls.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
6. Maybe it's more about macho culture.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:35 PM
Apr 2013
Oh, macho men are coming out now? Well let's throw a fucking parade for their macho sports fans for finally joining civilized society.

ismnotwasm

(41,965 posts)
9. Time will tell how this is received
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:46 PM
Apr 2013

I can't imagine it will be easy for him, because macho culture permeates professional ball players at every level. He'll get a lot of hate, but I hope he gets a lot of support as well. I'll be interested in how this plays out.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
10. I figure homophobia is going the way of racism.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:50 PM
Apr 2013

The few macho fans who refuse to evolve will soon find themselves having to keep the shit to themselves or for around their fellow bigoted friends.

StrayKat

(570 posts)
8. True. :)
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:46 PM
Apr 2013

It's probably the amount of money involved. But, it might also be that those are individual sports. Sharing the locker room seems to be a big hang up for some.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. No disrespect to the women athletes mentioned here, but Martina Navratilova and Billie Jean King
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 06:49 PM
Apr 2013

broke this ground several decades ago.

Billie Jean King then having the audacity to humiliate Bobby Riggs.

Latest Discussions»Alliance Forums»History of Feminism»These 5 Women Came Out Lo...