History of Feminism
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Condemn sexism and misogyny only in foreign countries, never in the US. The most appropriate targets are in the Global South, particularly where Islam is a dominant religion.
Exception: You can condemn Republican policies and comments. If a Democrat makes the same comments or supports the same policies, you must realize he is your ally and should not be challenged.
Attribute all sexism in the word to religion, especially Islam. Catholicism can also provide an acceptable target. If a man kills a woman without evoking a religious justification that death doesn't really count. If the man killing a woman is Muslim, the death should be blamed on Islam, even if the murderer doesn't site religion as an excuse. The same does not hold true for non-Muslim Westerners, including Catholics. (While this rule may seem a bit contradictory, it's very important not to diverge from these guidelines. )
Don't point out that homicide rates for women are higher in the US than most nations around the world. Those deaths just happen. They have nothing to do with misogyny or abuse of women.
Don't point out that 1 in 3 US women are subject to violence or rape at the hands of their partners. That again is a distraction since it cannot be attributed to the evils of Islam.
Don't talk about rape in the US unless you are pointing to a false charge against an innocent man. It's important that internet men not be reminded how common of a crime rape is in the US. Therefore, understand that if you do talk about rape you are engaging in misandry.
If an interwebs guy sites a three-decade old study by "feminists" claiming women don't really mean no when they say no, don't do anything but agree. Acknowledge you don't really mean no when you say you don't want to have sex because he's your "ally." Plus, you don't really know what you want anyway. You need a strong man to show you that.
Never ever mention the term "rape culture" when talking about the US. Everyone knows the existence of a rape culture has nothing to do with the frequency of rape in a given population, a low level of convictions, or victim shaming. Rape culture is only something that exists in the "Third Word," especially in Muslim countries.
Understand that EEOC laws are not really important. You should not be working in a corporation or public agency anyway. Everyone knows you'll make more money stripping. Tear up that college diploma and use it as a G-String.
Don't support female candidates for public office because that just antagonizes sexists. The way to prevent a sexist backlash is for women not to try to reach positions of political and economic power.
Make clear that the worst form of sexism is that which encourages women to veil or wear modest clothing. It does not matter whether women choose to wear that clothing or not. The important point is that she dress in ways that Americans find acceptable. Acceptability increases as the amount of clothing decreases.
Keep your feminist ideas to three word slogans: Fuck religion; fuck the Pope; fuck the Koran; fuck dictatorship. Anything more than three words is too complicated and therefore cannot be considered real feminism.
Lastly, attack every woman who breaks any of these rules and always side with men who tell those uppity women to shut up. Real feminists know that men really know best what our rights should be.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i havent been on du much.
BainsBane
(53,001 posts)It never varies much. There is a thread offering women career advice on how much money we can rake in as a stripper, for example. I guess if we stick to stripping they won't have to worry about getting into trouble for telling off-color jokes at work.
ismnotwasm
(41,917 posts)Fucking ridiculous. Yeah you can make bank, but rarely will you find a decent discussion on why.
And it always white women-going-to-school writing these 'stripping is awesome' articles. It ignores so many things I know are true about the industry it's not worth my time to even look at it. I had read that article a couple of days ago and was wondering when it would be picked up here.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)If a particular type of feminism seems to make women more sexually accessible it is good and it is cheered loudly
If a particular type of feminism seems to make women less sexually available it is scorned and mocked and ridiculed
The loudest cheerleaders are so transparent about this it has become amusing in a way
BainsBane
(53,001 posts)"The loudest cheerleaders are so transparent about this it has become amusing in a way"
So very true.
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)The stripping one bothered me a lot. An old friend from high school became a stripper and she developed issues that regardless of money she won't overcome. Like the fact she can't look at herself anymore especially now that she has two daughters she wants to find a new job but she say as soon as people see where she currently works the interest is gone.
BainsBane
(53,001 posts)The problem is I understand them all too well.
The other thing about stripping is what happens as you age. There isn't much call for menopausal strippers.
CrispyQ
(36,223 posts)That made me laugh.
I have a nice figure but no one would want to see me naked, much less jiggling around! I told my husband I'm becoming a crepe paper woman before my very eyes. First it was just my hands, but it's creeping upwards.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)I must have the author on Ignore.
ismnotwasm
(41,917 posts)You could probably find it A women wrote about how much she made stripping while going to school. Great money. It was actually well written, she put a few caution warnings in there. So of course people decide this is every strippers experience, that the money made everything else acceptable.
I trashed it. It was the same old crap, and I'm not going to waste my time arguing.
redqueen
(115,096 posts)No matter what you say, it doesn't seem to be heard. People have a certain set of ideas (usually gleaned from Hollywood or a few acquaintances) and nothing else seems to matter.
Gee, I can't imagine why that might happen.
ismnotwasm
(41,917 posts)Some women residents of my acquaintance "gee, why do you want to be a DOCTOR when you can be a STRIPPER?
(The actual life of a typical resident mostly precludes "stripping your way through it" since they are on call, work horrid hours, are under constant pressure, aren't 'looking their best' and have to develop on the spot decision making skills; Of course, there may be a few exceptions, and you can strip your way through medical school)