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Related: About this forumLeading Men Age, But Their Love Interests Don’t
How'd we arrive at our conclusions? For each of our leading men, we tried to pick a representative sample of films usually ten where that A-lister had a notable love interest or wife, then we plotted the age gaps on our charts over the course of that star's career. (Because production dates for older movies can be hard to come by, we measured the stars' ages on the day the film in question was released.) The results confirmed our suspicions: As leading men age, their love interests stay the same, and even the oldest men on our list have had few romantic pairings with a woman their own age (or even one out of her mid-thirties). If our actor was sharing the screen with an A-lister of commensurate star power like Julia Roberts or Angelina Jolie, the age difference would drop somewhat, but in movies that relied solely on our guy's big name, the lesser-known love interests would nearly always be decades younger.
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http://www.vulture.com/2013/04/leading-men-age-but-their-love-interests-dont.html
More from the 'stuff you already know' department.
niyad
(113,074 posts)I remember reading somewhere that there was some concern on the part of cary grant about the plot of "charade", when his character and audrey hepburn's were supposed to get together. he felt that the age difference might make it seem inappropriate, at the very least.
I am trying to think of any movies where a leading woman has a love interest younger than herself--and the only one I can remember is one with liv ullman and edward albert, called "40 carats"
redqueen
(115,103 posts)he was a really nice, genuine guy.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)too much of an age gap for me. (conditioned, yes). but the gap kept pulling my attention from the movie.
the proposal.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)They were more best buds instead of lovers tho, but still the love scene seems to offend a lot of people. Which makes me love the movie more.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)Especially the part with the tree.
JustAnotherGen
(31,781 posts)My two favorites of all time in one movie - and I'm a huge obsessive A.H. fan.
Cary Grant soon thereafter started to pull back. Jimmy Stewart did the same in the late 1950's.
But - then again - they were both class acts.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)the hoot? my oldest son, for years now, is the one calling it out when he sees it in the movies. old farts hooking up with the young woman. what young woman wants that. grosses him out and he has all kinds of stuff to say about it. i always giggle when he goes into this particular rant.
just really offends him
redqueen
(115,103 posts)I wonder what kind of conversations he's gonna have with college friends.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i asked him, what am i going to do without these conversations. so perceptive.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)I love Skype
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i only started texting not long ago. now i forget to call. texting a complicated message and the confusion that comes with it, my husband will say... CALL. lol. oh ya.
i do not even know what skype is. but guessin' i will have to check it out.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Microsoft bought them out so now its getting annoying in some ways, but I haven't found a better one.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)And the movie was even creepier than THAT sounds.
ismnotwasm
(41,967 posts)Ugh
CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)I thought "Chocolat" was one of Depp's best.
I thought "One Fine Day" was one of Clooney's best.
I thought "Shall We Dance" was one of Gere's best.
The stories are just more believable & real, imo.
In Arbitrage, Gere is 63 vs his love interest at 34. I was 34 once & I was not at all interested in men over 50. Forty five was pushing it.
I think the most outrageous was a James Bond flick where 26 year old Denise Richards was the world renowned physicist, & if that wasn't bad enough, she was in the field, which was at some kind of underground mountain facility, in hot pants. Oh yes, very believable.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)But when you get to 15 years, much less 20+, that's really stretching it! Maybe I'm just steeped in too much tradition. No one's ever said that about me before, much less me!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)it is not like we are getting exact bdays here. someone is going to be older and young.
5 to me seems to be the same. as we get older.
ismnotwasm
(41,967 posts)Nothing promotes a movie like a off screen romance, A "because I can" factor, a longing for lost youth, a maturation issue, and in either gender, a desire to obscure ones sexual orientation
It doesn't bother me too much. What bothers me is how women are portrayed so unrealistically young in so many roles.
It's well known there is a dearth of good roles for older women, although for older male 'action' stars they can always do something; from something as excretable as "The Expendables" to academy award winning roles.
For older women its minor roles, TV, or the stage. And that's bullshit.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,967 posts)Movies need to sell, and to me, this is a symptom of a larger cultural problem.
CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)So true.
I feel as a society we used to have higher standards of conduct. I think the digital age is partly responsible for the decline. We are a culture hooked on entertainment, feeling good & pleasing the self. The marketers don't care what kind of impact their products have on society as long as they make a buck. Hollywood, sports, entertainment in general, all seem to be having a much more profound effect on our culture & not in a good way.
Couple that with the 'greed is good' message that Reagan brought us in the 80s & the dumbing down of the public, via selling out public education & the buy out of our media, & wow. No wonder we are where we are, a shallow country, fixated on material wealth, with a 15 second attention span.
On that happy note, I realize it's time for an internet break!
ismnotwasm
(41,967 posts)Enjoy!
CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)I tried to capture what I thought was the most current a photo.
Diane Keaton, 67
Glenn Close, 66
Susan Sarandon, 66
Kathy Bates, 64
Sigourney Weaver, 63
Meryl Streep, 63
Christine Baranski, 60
Lena Olin, 58
Debra Winger, 57
Michelle Pfeiffer, 53
Only 3 under 60 & only 1 under 55. If I can find these gorgeous women, why can't Hollywood? We know why. Once a woman hits 40, her film career is limited to mostly bit roles, maybe a bigger role if she lands a TV series, or broadway.
Sometimes I wonder why women go into acting, knowing that only a few will be able to continue their careers to the same degree, once they hit 40. I'm not saying that they don't find other, satisfying work in the field, it's just that men stars don't have this issue in film. Bruce Willis is still making action movies like he's in his 30s. Seriously? And then they pair him with a super young actress. When I was 30, I was not attracted to 60 year old guys.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i luv. thanks.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)and they have good surgeons. Most are honest about getting 'touch ups' as they age. Part of the job really
CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)We should be seeing more of these gorgeous women when the main guy is 60.
OMG! There I just said it - what is really the crux of the problem, "the main guy."
niyad
(113,074 posts)are three ages for women in hollywood: ingenue, district attorney, and driving miss daisy. seemed like a fairly gentle assessment.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Thin and obese. No in between women allowed. Although that does seem to be changing... albeit very, very slowly.
niyad
(113,074 posts)was the fact that she was a woman with curves and an actual body. as you said, it is changing very slowly. meryl streep in "it's complicated" also didn't look like a stick.
CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)An 18 year difference between Keaton & Reeves & yet I know that on this forum I was rooting for Reeves over Nicholson. A lot of that was because the Nicholson character was such a womanizing jerk. Yeah he came around in the end, but he spent most of his older adult life dating only very young women. And I wonder if the Keaton character had been cast as Cathy Bates, would he have come around at all? In other words, can Hollywood even imagine such a thing? So many limitations for older women.
I do love the gentle spirit of the Reeves character, though.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)I don't think I've ever seen him in a movie I didn't like him in. I could see you being his "Point Break" girlfriend.
But don't get any ideas!