Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
History of Feminism
Related: About this forumWomen Are Not Their Own Worst Beauty Critics
Last week, Doves Real Beauty Sketches ad went seriously viral across the web. And by viral were talking millions of YouTube views, a New York Times article and a parody within the span of a few days. Regardless of your opinion on the ad, its clear it has struck a nerve and contributed to a necessary conversation.
But there is one particular strand of this conversation which seems especially worth further investigation. Whether it was in TIMEs twitter feed or in individuals Facebook posts, many have used some variation of this phrase in relation to the commercial: women are their own worst critics when it comes to how they look.
...
All the men in the world who feel entitled to womens bodies, and feel entitled to have an opinion about those bodies, and sometimes even feel entitled to touch and hurt those bodies they are the worst critics of womens beauty. They are the ones who most often turn criticism into objectification, dehumanization and even violence.
...
If we really want women (and everyone else) to feel better about themselves then we should also be challenging these men and boys to take a second look at how they talk about women and womens bodies and the negative impact it is having on our world.
...
http://www.missrepresentation.org/media/women-are-not-their-own-worst-beauty-critics/
But there is one particular strand of this conversation which seems especially worth further investigation. Whether it was in TIMEs twitter feed or in individuals Facebook posts, many have used some variation of this phrase in relation to the commercial: women are their own worst critics when it comes to how they look.
...
All the men in the world who feel entitled to womens bodies, and feel entitled to have an opinion about those bodies, and sometimes even feel entitled to touch and hurt those bodies they are the worst critics of womens beauty. They are the ones who most often turn criticism into objectification, dehumanization and even violence.
...
If we really want women (and everyone else) to feel better about themselves then we should also be challenging these men and boys to take a second look at how they talk about women and womens bodies and the negative impact it is having on our world.
...
http://www.missrepresentation.org/media/women-are-not-their-own-worst-beauty-critics/
InfoView thread info, including edit history
TrashPut this thread in your Trash Can (My DU » Trash Can)
BookmarkAdd this thread to your Bookmarks (My DU » Bookmarks)
4 replies, 1443 views
ShareGet links to this post and/or share on social media
AlertAlert this post for a rule violation
PowersThere are no powers you can use on this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
ReplyReply to this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
Rec (1)
ReplyReply to this post
4 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Women Are Not Their Own Worst Beauty Critics (Original Post)
redqueen
Apr 2013
OP
ismnotwasm
(41,974 posts)1. No shit
I almost posted a parody I found of that campaign, involving men being their own worst critics by thinking they're more attractive than they are, but decided that ultimately, it wasn't useful.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)3. Sigh.
...
By contrast, it could be argued that men who have never had their value as a human being appraised by others relative to their physical beauty in the ways that women historically have live in a self-image bubble. And existing as they do outside the relentless, self-image-battering criticism/critique that women endure every day coming at them from all sides, is it surprising that mens sense of their own attractiveness might be, well, just a little out of whack?
The video is funny, no doubt, but it does also serve to underscore something very real and not-so-funny: the massive gender gap that exists between men and women relative to body image. Brass tax, women arent hard on themselves because its natural or normal or were born that way were trained by society to be ultra-critical and hyper-anxious about our bodies, and men simply arent. Or at least arent anywhere near to the extent that women are. Sure, there are guys out there who are style and image conscious, men who work out fanatically at the gym to achieve some ideal physique, but I think its fair to say that the average dude thinks hard and critically about how His Attractiveness about as often as he gets an oil change for his car. But for women well, theres a ceaseless daily drone in our heads (and on TV, and in magazines, and in movies, and perhaps most disturbingly coming from other women) about whether were too fat, or too thin, or if our hair is shiny enough, and does this lipstick make me look pretty or cadaverous (ad infinitum, applied to every facet of our physical being)? Its exhausting, frankly.
...
http://www.babble.com/babble-voices/mamapop-all-access/2013/04/19/dove-sketches-parody-highlights-gender-gap-in-perceived-attractiveness/
By contrast, it could be argued that men who have never had their value as a human being appraised by others relative to their physical beauty in the ways that women historically have live in a self-image bubble. And existing as they do outside the relentless, self-image-battering criticism/critique that women endure every day coming at them from all sides, is it surprising that mens sense of their own attractiveness might be, well, just a little out of whack?
The video is funny, no doubt, but it does also serve to underscore something very real and not-so-funny: the massive gender gap that exists between men and women relative to body image. Brass tax, women arent hard on themselves because its natural or normal or were born that way were trained by society to be ultra-critical and hyper-anxious about our bodies, and men simply arent. Or at least arent anywhere near to the extent that women are. Sure, there are guys out there who are style and image conscious, men who work out fanatically at the gym to achieve some ideal physique, but I think its fair to say that the average dude thinks hard and critically about how His Attractiveness about as often as he gets an oil change for his car. But for women well, theres a ceaseless daily drone in our heads (and on TV, and in magazines, and in movies, and perhaps most disturbingly coming from other women) about whether were too fat, or too thin, or if our hair is shiny enough, and does this lipstick make me look pretty or cadaverous (ad infinitum, applied to every facet of our physical being)? Its exhausting, frankly.
...
http://www.babble.com/babble-voices/mamapop-all-access/2013/04/19/dove-sketches-parody-highlights-gender-gap-in-perceived-attractiveness/
mopinko
(70,070 posts)2. yeah, but it is just a commercial.
the artist knew all along who was talking, and drew accordingly.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)4. men are the ones who most often turn criticism into objectification, dehumanization and even violenc
yes. yes they are.