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Related: About this forumManchin: NRA Kept Background Checks Bill From Getting 70 Votes
Manchin Blames NRA For Background Checks Bill Failure
WASHINGTON (AP) The Democratic sponsor of the defeated gun-control plan says it would have passed easily, if not for the National Rifle Association.
Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia says there would have been 70 votes for the plan to expand background checks for gun buyers. But the NRA said it would include the gun vote on report cards that show whether candidates support gun rights.
The Senate on Wednesday rejected the background check bill Manchin wrote with Pennsylvania Republican Sen. Patrick Toomey.
Manchin says he also lost votes because some senators who may vote for gay rights or an immigration bill wanted to show they are still conservative.
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Manchin: NRA Kept Background Checks Bill From Getting 70 Votes (Original Post)
Tx4obama
Apr 2013
OP
We will be marking our grade on these Senators, it is obvious they do not vote as their constituents
Thinkingabout
Apr 2013
#3
Laurian
(2,593 posts)1. Why can't they just do what's right? What's with the "if I vote for this,
I can't vote for that" crap? Are they allotted a set number of yeas and nays. Jesus, these people are craven. The ONLY thing that motivates them is self interest.......period.
global1
(25,224 posts)2. What's With NRA Report Cards And Grover's Pledge?......
Why do these take precedent over their Oath Of Office?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)3. We will be marking our grade on these Senators, it is obvious they do not vote as their constituents
Prefer, on a 90/10 issue you vote with the 90%. They are whores to the NRA.
choie
(4,107 posts)4. Fuck you, Joe
How much money have you received from the NRA? Do they have you on speed-dial?
jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)5. Joe Manchin, just an average Joe
Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia says there would have been 70 votes for the plan to expand background checks for gun buyers. But the NRA said it would include the gun vote on report cards that show whether candidates support gun rights.
Does create an interesting aspect about democrat joe manchin from west virginia, regarding what grades he might get next from the nra, as well as what grade he might get from mayor bloomburgs newly created 'politician grades' similar to nras, in a parallel universe.
I predict Manchin will get a C from MAIG (bloomburgs mayors against illegal guns).
I predict Manchin will get a C from nra (nutty rightwingers, armed).
... discrepancy, imo, could be a plus or minus to the C (ie C+ or C-).
Neither side can give him an 'A'; if the nra were to do so it would signal to other progun congressmen that nra's afterswing doesn't bite much. B- is a possibility tho.
MAIG deserves to give manchin a D or D+, due manchin's past support of nra & opposition to guncontrol, but a D would still be demeaning to manchin and thus MAIG will 'reward' manchin with a C, or C+, for this year at least.
Toomey will get a tad lower grade than manchin, or the same, perhaps a C- to joe's C.
Irony if my prediction comes to pass, where both sides make joe manchin, just an average joe.
Does create an interesting aspect about democrat joe manchin from west virginia, regarding what grades he might get next from the nra, as well as what grade he might get from mayor bloomburgs newly created 'politician grades' similar to nras, in a parallel universe.
I predict Manchin will get a C from MAIG (bloomburgs mayors against illegal guns).
I predict Manchin will get a C from nra (nutty rightwingers, armed).
... discrepancy, imo, could be a plus or minus to the C (ie C+ or C-).
Neither side can give him an 'A'; if the nra were to do so it would signal to other progun congressmen that nra's afterswing doesn't bite much. B- is a possibility tho.
MAIG deserves to give manchin a D or D+, due manchin's past support of nra & opposition to guncontrol, but a D would still be demeaning to manchin and thus MAIG will 'reward' manchin with a C, or C+, for this year at least.
Toomey will get a tad lower grade than manchin, or the same, perhaps a C- to joe's C.
Irony if my prediction comes to pass, where both sides make joe manchin, just an average joe.