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Ed Rendell is the enemy.. (Original Post) busterbrown Apr 2013 OP
Wrong. Republicans are the enemy. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #1
Tell me some of the unknown, untested “liberals who we’ve supported.. busterbrown Apr 2013 #4
Jill Stein. eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #17
Don’t think your example works at all... busterbrown Apr 2013 #19
You asked, I gave you one, you then predictably dismiss it. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #20
+1 tabbycat31 Apr 2013 #13
Chuck Schumer voted for DOMA, which denies my civil rights Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #15
And the majority of Democrats under President Carter BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #18
He's repulsive. MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #2
Agree. xxqqqzme Apr 2013 #3
As someone from PA Cosmocat Apr 2013 #11
Wrong way to put it, imo, bb. elleng Apr 2013 #5
+ 1000 eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #21
He's a DLC, third wayer to the bone. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #6
Ed's no longer a Democrat or liberal, but a profiteering, corporate lobbyist. Divernan Apr 2013 #7
Ed should be referred to as a Turncoat Dem, not former Dem. Governor. Divernan Apr 2013 #9
And yet he'll be endorsing Hillary Clinton for President in 2016 BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #22
can't stand the slimey jerk. Whisp Apr 2013 #8
He's why I stopped watching MSNBC. forestpath Apr 2013 #10
He's certainly a poor friend. bluedigger Apr 2013 #12
He's not an ally One of the 99 Apr 2013 #14
Rendell's always made me gag. Arkana Apr 2013 #16
Ed wants to hurt the vulnerable..case closed... tokenlib Apr 2013 #23

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
1. Wrong. Republicans are the enemy.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:51 AM
Apr 2013

I'm not crazy about Rendell or people like Chuck Schumer or even Bill Clinton, but that doesn't make me want to consider them "enemies". The real enemies are the Republicans, and I'll toss into that, Purist-Leftists who empower Republicans by throwing away their vote to inexperienced, unknown, untested "Liberals" because the Democratic Party isn't "pure" enough for their tastes.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
4. Tell me some of the unknown, untested “liberals who we’ve supported..
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:01 AM
Apr 2013

Did you read the link? He’s as bad as any rethug...

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
19. Don’t think your example works at all...
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:30 PM
Apr 2013

Your just talking about the fringe whom will never be satisfied with anyone but a hard core leftist..
You will never get their votes from even a good progressive candidate...

Another...Please..

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/11/08/the_pathetic_failure_of_green_party_candidate_jill_stein.html

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
20. You asked, I gave you one, you then predictably dismiss it.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:46 PM
Apr 2013

Yes, I'm talking about the fringe who have infiltrated this site, and who are spewing the most uninformed BS about President Obama and Democrats without understanding how our government works - and it doesn't when there are too many Republicans populating the House.

I agree. Jill Stein is a failure and she was inexperienced, untested, and unknown - but she fit perfectly in the minds of Third-wayers who consistently believe "we need a fresh face" {read: inexperienced, untested, and unknown}. Those votes could have been better spent on a WINNING candidate whose policies are closer to those the majority of the American people want, and to theirs. Instead, they continue to cut their noses to spite their faces.

Nader is a very good example of wrong-choices made by the Left fringe - and then we got Bush. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that Gore ran a shitty campaign, and he was boring, and he was wooden, and he couldn't even win his home state, and he's rumored to have said that he "invented the Internet" {which he never said}, but what struck me the hardest was the fact that there was an ongoing meme that he "was no different than Bush" nor that they knew that the GOP was funding Nader's campaign. Liberals are supposed to be the contemplative people; the insightful people with a broader vision. Today, I see very little of it. We wouldn't be in this mess had that shitty campaigner, boring, and wooden Gore had gotten the support and took his rightful place in the WH.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
15. Chuck Schumer voted for DOMA, which denies my civil rights
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 11:44 AM
Apr 2013

Chuck Schumer's actions are the actions of one who sees me as an enemy. Not sure what you mean by 'people like Chuck Schumer'. I'm talking about Chuck and Chuck's actions. He is not my friend.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
18. And the majority of Democrats under President Carter
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:29 PM
Apr 2013

in BOTH chambers of Congress have voted for cutting basic earned social security benefits in order to "save it". President Clinton and the vast majority of Democrats in the House voted to tax s.s. benefits above $34,000 per year incomes, which is a CUT in basic benefits, not the annual rate of growth AND he publicly gave credibility to the Chimp in Chief and Darth Vader to launch war against Iraq.

Are they your enemies, too?

Oh, and by the way, President Clinton pushed for DOMA and DADT and signed these into law.

Face it. We can't have everything we want, at least, not in this political environment because of REPUBLICANS. Let's stay focused here. Republicans, not Democrats, are the enemy. And until Lefty-purists get it together and stop nitpicking programs and policies they abhor and help vote with the rest of America to boot out the Republicans that force these sort of bills through because they hold vital programs hostage until they get their way, we're going to have programs and policies we don't like.

I don't know about you, but too many Liberals get too easily upset and refuse to vote for Democrats or don't vote at all (tossing their votes to the Republicans) because they don't like one program or the other. That's a purity mean's test that's pretty narrow-minded. They completely overlook the fact that they have become part of the problem of having Republicans in power. Republicans and Teapublicans NEVER get that petty. They might hate their candidate {and usually do}, but they will vote Republican against any Democrat no matter what, hence the over 60 million Americans who voted for Mittney even if they had to hold their noses to do it.

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
11. As someone from PA
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 07:12 AM
Apr 2013

I was never real fond of him as governor.

Better than an R by a FAR sight, but he was way to eager to enable the jackwagon R legislature/senate in spending the state into a big hole when governor. Was sort of like Clinton, who I did like a good bit, in that he was very self concerned and made it hard for any other D to follow him.

And, yeah, you just don't feel like you can trust him.

elleng

(130,710 posts)
5. Wrong way to put it, imo, bb.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:06 AM
Apr 2013

Repugs are the 'enemy,' and we're foolish if we displace that recognition by substituting Democrats. Repugs, of course, would love us to do this; it suits them just fine.

Surely there are problems when we learn that Democrats have conflicts of interest, which appears to be the case here, but let's NOT adopt a new 'rule,' one must not like to or want to make money. I do/did, as do most of us. We can learn to take what those with conflicts say with a grain, or ton, of salt, of course.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
6. He's a DLC, third wayer to the bone.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:18 AM
Apr 2013

Most definitely an enemy. The worst kind in fact, the kind that pretends to be a friend. The Republicans make no bones about what they stand for, the corporate crumbs in the Democratic Party are snakes in the grass.

Ask any Philly cop, fireman or teacher what they think of this asshole. He fucked them royally.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
7. Ed's no longer a Democrat or liberal, but a profiteering, corporate lobbyist.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:51 AM
Apr 2013
http://org.credoaction.com/petitions/msnbc-disclose-fix-the-debt-co-chair-ed-rendell-s-conflicts-of-interest-when-booking
Ed Rendell today is a co-chair of Fix the Debt — nevertheless, in media appearances on MSNBC he is regularly introduced only as the former Democratic governor of Pennsylvania. He is special counsel to the law firm Ballard Spahr, where he focuses on privatization in housing and infrastructure. Rendell is a senior adviser at Greenhill & Co., a multinational investment bank.

Rendell is also on the advisory board of Verdeva, a technology development firm, and an operating partner at the venture capital firm Element Partners, a company that has recently invested in natural gas "fracking" in Pennsylvania and nearby states.

Ed Rendell is no longer a Democratic politician. He is a lobbyist, a banking adviser, and technology investor.

Ed Rendell has numerous conflicts of interest that belie his role as neutral or "liberal" commenter. For example:

1. SOCIAL SECURITY/OTHER SOCIAL INSURANCE PROGRAMS.
Ed Rendell today is co-chair of the Pete Peterson organization Fix the Debt, along with chairmen Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles. He fully advocates the Simpson-Bowles proposal of Social Security and Medicare benefit cuts. Ed Rendell's prominent role in Fix the Debt makes him an advocate for benefit cuts to Social Security and other social insurance programs. The leaders of Fix the Debt have deep financial interests in cuts to these programs. Rendell in particular, and the organization generally, strongly advocates for these cuts.
Rendell's role as co-chair of Fix the Debt must be disclosed before he is allowed to speak about Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid.
2.TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENTS. Rendell's technology firm Verdeva is developing technology to track motorists at the gas pump so they can be taxed for infrastructure revenue. This is an industry-favored — and industry-favoring — measure for developing income streams needed to finance infrastructure deals. In addition, Element Partners is involved in fracking. Rendell thus personally benefits from any expansion of drilling for natural gas as a solution to the nation's energy needs.

3.MEDICARE & MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT. Ed Rendell lobbied for KCI USA, a wound care technology company, on Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements in 2012. This client has a financial interest in shaping the future of these programs and their reimbursement policies.

4. INFRASTRUCTURE & PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
Rendell is a strong proponent of "public private partnerships" (PPPs) in infrastructure, which have been criticized as a dubious form of privatization of public assets. Two of Rendell's firms, Ballard Spahr and Greenhill & Co., along with their clients and thus Rendell himself, could benefit financially from his public advocacy of PPP "solutions" to public needs.
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Speaking to you all as a elected Democrat/local government official in Pennsylvania, who continues to work to replace GOP politicians in the Governor's office, on the state supreme court and in the state legislature, I'm telling you Ed's notorious post-election profiteering activities are the VERY LAST things we want Pennsylvania voters to identify as Democratic.

THANK YOU FOR THIS OP!

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
9. Ed should be referred to as a Turncoat Dem, not former Dem. Governor.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:16 AM
Apr 2013
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/please-msnbc-cut-ed-rendell-and-not-soc
I met Ed Rendell during the DNC in Denver back in 2008. He was very likeable and you knew after spending a few moments with him that he knows how to politic. So it's very sad to see him on MSNBC pathetically hawking the phony rich man's front group calling themselves Fix The Debt.

Rendell was on teevee yesterday pimping his take. It's very sad to think that most of the year he says he speaks for Democrats, but when our entire elderly population's well-being is at risk, he's siding with the robber baron CEOs.

In addition to his current duties as professional-liberal-even-Joe-Sixpack-can-love on MSNBC, Ballard Spahr court jester, and corporate consigliere atGreenhill & Co investment bank, Rendell is currently co-chairing the steering committee of something called The CEO Campaign to Fix the Debt—a blue-chip cabal of 130-plus plutocrats who have anted up a $43 million kitty to fund a multimedia stealth campaign/public relations offensive to convince the turkeys to vote for Thanksgiving.

Fix the Debt is pushing for radical alterations to the tax code to legalize a hundred-plus billion dollar corporate tax dodge and pass the buck onto the middle/working/underclass in the form of deep cuts to Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare, all the while masquerading as a selfless crusade to save the nation from going over the [cue thunder and lightning] financial cliff. Bless their blackened hearts.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
22. And yet he'll be endorsing Hillary Clinton for President in 2016
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:54 PM
Apr 2013

which is a frightening thought. Then again, Rendell is an ass, but he's got moneyed connections. It's expensive to run for office at any level, but especially for the presidency so I understand and actually welcome his endorsement of HRC in 2016.

I personally prefer the ex-Republican-turned-Independent Mayor Bloomberg over Rendell any day, though - purely based on his insightful stances that are truly trying to help Americans, not his own pockets {which he's already done in abundance}. At least Bloomberg is trying to give back, spending millions of his own money to pass strong gun safety laws. What has Rendell done for the U.S.?

bluedigger

(17,085 posts)
12. He's certainly a poor friend.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 10:21 AM
Apr 2013

Every time he calls for business over regulation as a jobs creator I want to

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
16. Rendell's always made me gag.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:04 AM
Apr 2013

He makes friends with some of the shittiest people and is the classic example of a machine politician.

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
23. Ed wants to hurt the vulnerable..case closed...
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 01:14 PM
Apr 2013

Fast Eddie is an enemy to anyone who wants economic security in their vulnerable older years..or if you're disabled.

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