Which blue states are we loosing grip?

[illegaloperation]

So Democrats are gaining in red states such as Arizona, Texas, and Georgia.

Which blue states are we loosing grip on?

[bottomofthehill]

1. west virginia

we are about to loose a senator and possibly a house seat too

[illegaloperation]

3. Yes I've thought of that

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Can we find a Manchin clone somewhere?

In the long term, West Virginia is gone.

[Aristus]

19. Irony of ironies.

We're losing blue West Virginia in our efforts to keep it green. What they seem to want is a red West Virginia that has all the charm of a toxic slag heap.

Enjoy, fellas...

[illegaloperation]

2. Just a thought

Are we losing any mid-western states?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

4. Most of the traditionally "Blue" states seem to be in the Democratic column still

at least nationally. Unfortunately, at the state level, the Republicans have gerrymandered themselves into a comfortable sport. This year will be a test to see if the election of people like Walker, Snyder, Corbett, and Kasich was an aberration or if they represented a shift to the right in these states (i.e. Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania). I don't think that any of them are faring too well, at least in terms of their poll numbers at the moment. I'd say that the legislators in Wisconsin and Michigan are working feverishly hard to "bake in" a lot of their changes to laws, which might suggest that they know that they're vulnerable and that their days are numbered.

[illegaloperation]

5. Some of them will go.

Snyder and Corbett are gone. Walker and Kasich look like they will survive.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

20. Kasich is probably safe.....for now

He's backed down on some of the RW lunacy but Walker may yet be in trouble if the unemployment numbers don't get better.

[Cosmocat]

10. Pa is what Pa was

Democratic at the presidential election level when the mass of registered Ds turn out.

A split at the state level, where there is this thing where the state goes R, D, R, D for governor and almost a complete even split on the senators over time.

Almost a sure thing R majority in the senate and legislature do to some of the most embarrasingly gerrymandered districts in the country.

Corbett is in BIG trouble for a number of reasons, primarily because of the Sandusky situation. Everything else, cuts to education, being unabashedly in bed with the natural gas industry, his hair brained idea to privatize the lottery, these things piss people off, but are not enough to get people motivated enough to bump a governor in this state. We literally have never had a one term governor in my life.

But, he is literally on the wrong side of every aspect of the Sandusky situation. Did not prosecute him when he was AG, is recognized as the person who is responsible for driving the firing of Paterno and piled on when the sanctions hit.

His problem is two fold. You can fuck with the environment and education and sell of the public assets and get away with it, but you can't fuck around with a sport that lies at the very heart of so many people like PSU does. Second, PSU is a VERY republican institution. I have never seen so many rock ribbed republican's turn on a guy like Corbett, who in fucking with the environment and education and being a corporate whore is pretty much someone they normally would love.

He is in a LOT of trouble.

BUT, it depends on the D candidate.

Gotta have someone who is going to allow these Rs to either vote for them, or at the very least being willing to sit it out.

And, he or she still will be dealing with a solid R house/senate.

[brooklynite]

6. What do you consider a "Blue State"?

We haven't won West Virginia in a Presidential race since 1996, even though we've held the Senate seats; ditto Montana.

[illegaloperation]

8. I will clarify.

What I mean is states that have recently voted for Democratic presidents, but is harder and harder for future Democratic presidents to carry.

[DCBob]

11. I dont see any that are traditional Blue going Red any time soon

its the swing states as usual that will be the determining factors.

[Bluenorthwest]

12. And which States are these 'swing states' and how exactly do they swing in recent cycles?

The truth lies in the specifics, not in rhetorical devices and shop talk. Which States do you see as 'swing States'?

[DCBob]

13. Go ahead and provide some specifics yourself if you think its necessary.

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Any idiot knows what the traditional swing states are.

[AlinPA]

14. PA. Republicans own this state now. 13 of 18 US House seats. One teabagger US Senator, a stupid

teabagger governor (Corbett), both the State House and Senate.
While Corbett is unpopular now, not enough Democrats will come out to vote for someone else in 2014.

[illegaloperation]

15. I doubt it.

Gerrymandering is why the Republicans still control the house seats there.

Corbett approval rating is in the toilet.

Toomey was sweep in with the 2010 wave, but I am not sure if he can be remove in 2016.

Then again, Santorum was senator here somehow.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

16. None yet

[Nedsdag]

17. Do you mean loosening or losing?

n/t

[illegaloperation]

18. That is a typo.

It's actually losing.

[Hekate]

21. All the ones where we are vowing to primary the Democratic incumbents

Gerrymandering won't help either, but the vow to primary vulnerable Democrats just makes me

[illegaloperation]

22. Yes, that is just dumb.

I keep hearing dumb things like Sen. Mark Pryor (AR) need to be primary. There's no way a more liberal Democrats can win his seat.

It is tough enough just for him to retain his seat.

[Jennicut]

23. Blue states are pretty solid in last three Presidential elections.

CA, CT, DE, HI, IL, MA, ME, MD, MI, MN, NJ, NY, OR, VT and WA. The rest are swing states or solidly red. WV and TN and KY went for Clinton in the 90's but the south is solid red now. Dems did make some of the west into swing states though.

[Lex]

24. NC - the Repubs finally

got a majority in our state house and senate. It's terrible right now. Terrible. NC has been trending/teetering on blue on the national level, and has been ruled by Dems in the state legislature for years and years. Until now.